Police attempt to kill man at McDonald’s? (US)

Overheal

Perhaps there’s more to this story but from what the video divulges about officer walks up to a car, immediately demands the passenger get out who is eating fast food and then opens fire on him

https://twitter.com/kendallybrown/status/1578397658611388417?s=46&t=_cC4Pc2AgpocpFMrM1eoWg

and then when he made it thankfully to a hospital he was charged with assaulting a police officer and evasion.

https://twitter.com/kendallybrown/status/1578398494288642052?s=46&t=_cC4Pc2AgpocpFMrM1eoWg

Did the cop start the encounter in a drive thru IDK but whatever traffic violation he might’ve done wasn’t worth perforating him over for brandishing a cheeseburger?

walshb

Maybe let wait till all details released here.

Curse These Metal Hands

Meh, more garbage news from wacky America.

bb12

i watched the video and you hear the cop telling dispatch that was the car that drove off on him earlier that week...and when he opened the door and asked the driver to exit, first thing the driver did was put the car into reverse, hitting the cop with car door as he pulled back, rather than obey instructions...

obviously the cop was nuts to start shooting but it's not a case of a cop randomly shooting at someone for sitting in their car just eating a mcd's.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119717868#Comment_119717868

Fascinated to know what more we could learn that makes opening fire on a burger okay

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119717889#Comment_119717889

I only see him reverse when he gets shot.

someone comes up from behind you (no blue lights?) and just whips open your door tells you to get out grabs you you pull away they whip a gun out you gtfo

eggy81

Guy seems to knock the car into reverse as he asked why whether by accident or what I don’t know.cop reacts like he’s gotten a fright for some reason. Kind of jumps into action suddenly. Weird.

eggy81

Clearly knocks car into reverse as he asks why.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119717902#Comment_119717902

i probably would have too. People impersonate cops. This guy had no blue lights on either.

https://www.wtae.com/article/monroeville-fake-cop/41459155

I’ve been stopped by cops. “License and registration please” “roll down your window please” never just ripping me out of my car while I’m parked at a McDonald’s in the middle of chewing.

Montage of Feck

Like the middle east and Africa, I've just given up on the US at this stage.

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119717912#Comment_119717912

Yep. Opening fire as he did looks massively out of proportion for the offence. Maybe more to it.

Boggles

How dare him drive off whilst the cop tries to put 15 in his head.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119717916#Comment_119717916

The more to it seemingly is the cops ego needed correcting if he thought this was some perp who got away from him earlier in the day or week and that deserved skipping several steps of good process.

Fritzbox

Some of the following comments in the twitter account are amazing.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119717917#Comment_119717917

If you notice when the car switches gears to drive forward he stops firing for a second then KEEPS FIRING as the car DRIVES AWAY. Even chasing it on foot while still trying to make opportunistic shots to kill the guy as he runs for his life.

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119717923#Comment_119717923

Scary situation when tgst sort of **** can happen alright. And he then gets charged. Unbelievable

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119717929#Comment_119717929

It's disturbing but not surprising.

The first 5 shots, okay we all get spooked 🤷‍♂️, but stopping and then firing next 5? That is an attempted execution.

Also unloading 10 bullets in an area that has bound to have other people around is bananas. He has no idea if their is anyone in that parked red car or if he is firing directly through the window in the building.

But but but, lets not jump to conclusions. The lunatic should be in prison.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119717950#Comment_119717950

Oh no no no. Do you know how many officers have walked for spraying bullets, even murdering people in drive thrus? That’s a qualified immunity!

That clip is like an ad for the latest version of Grand Theft Auto. Mental stuff.

Eoinbmw

Cop been reading too much Judge Dredd comics!

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119717914#Comment_119717914

This is the answer

Donald Trump

Maybe the cop was more of a Supermacs man

BorneTobyWilde

Zero excuse for cop here, I don't care what the kid did, putting the car into reverse was to drive away, but I'm sure they'll twist it that he drove at him with car to kill him, so he shot back, thankfully video is there to show a scared kid fleeing, not a raging lunatic driving into a cop at 80 mph to kill him, if there was no video this is exactly what the cop would claim though

The US is just increasingly looking like some kind of strange, corrupt, police state.

The level of power and abuse of power that you see in videos like this is something that simply shouldn't be happening in a developed democracy.

It's like something out of an unhinged military dictatorship and it's like as if they've normalised it as somehow acceptable and can't see the problems.

These things like "Oh but he didn't turn off his engine" or "he ran" or whatever to justify shooting someone multiple times in the back or something like that. It's absolutely nuts and isn't what you'd expect to see in a functioning country.

It seems like if you're stopped by cops over there you have to basically start going "Sir! Yes Sir!" and prostrate yourself to whatever insane demands are made and be terrified of talking back in case you'll be beaten, tasered or shot dead for any kind of 'non-compliance'. That isn't how a free society works.

The footage of the way the protests were policed was absolutely shocking. Protesters being beaten, driven over all sorts of stuff. It's literally like something you'd see in a corrupt dictatorship and I don't think they are really willing to accept that they've a serious problem and that it's apparently becoming worse.

I'm not saying the US doesn't have its good points, but this certainly is not one of them.

Potential-Monke

Before I start, I'm just stating facts here. I couldn't care less about any of the people involved on this, nor the country it took place in.

It's scant on info, specifically the incident the day before, ie: the reason he approached this vehicle again (plates didn't match the vehicle). The approach was wrong, imo, but no one can say he accidentally put it in reverse. He made a very obvious and clear decision, imo, to go into reverse and start moving away. I also heard "why?" being said as he was doing it.

The shooting itself is, as expected in 'Merica, over the top, excessive and unnecessary ?with the current info). But, I've also seen worse and warranted.

Cop is fired anyway, was only in the job 7 months and still in probation. Someone got a bit too excited I'd imagine and let their imagination run away with itself and created a violent situation in his head which didn't match reality. There's probably more to come against the cop.

Still, I'd never be a cop over there!

xxxxxxl

Looks suspect enough but need more information. But man was not shot for eating a take out. Just like a gun pointed at a pregnant woman adds nothing to the story. We all know why the language is used though.

GSBellew

There is more to this than a random incident of a cop deciding to shoot someone for eating a burger......

I'm not saying it was right, but it clearly was not a completely random event.

Manic Moran

From my local station. The evasion charge has been dropped. No indication of whether there is any merit to a possible charge relating to the suspected stolen car. (i.e. doesn't seem to say if the car actually was a stolen one or not)

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/10/07/watch-live-bexar-county-da-to-discuss-charges-against-teen-shot-by-former-sapd-officer/

Brennand suspected Cantu’s car was stolen and called for cover. However, before other officers arrived, he walked up to the car and opened the door, where Cantu and another passenger were eating food.

Cantu put the vehicle in reverse with the door still open and started driving, SAPD said. The door hit Brennand, and he opened fire.

Brennand was later fired for violating departmental tactics and procedures not long after the shooting, SAPD said.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119719798#Comment_119719798

Seems an over reaction from the cop then but again eating a burger adds nothing to the events.

Floppybits

The problem is that the police forces in America has become more like the military, from the way they train, their tactics and their personnel. Alot of the police officers have come from the military and have served in middle East and they are bringing that experience into the police force which is totally different to serving in a hostile country. The attitude seems to be take action first and apologise later.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720184#Comment_119720184

Yet the statistics show incredible restraint in the American police.

The number of unarmed people shot dead each year by them, nevermind innocent people, is incredibly small, especially given how violent and armed the society they police is.

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720220#Comment_119720220

I have often suspected this. Would love to see the full stats as the media loves the hype.

Like the internet ingeneral I assume most media is inaccurate or biased. With the bias being usually to make it look as bad as possible so that it gets clicks.

Same as the explosion in Donegal. Within one glance at the scene I could see the explosion was clearly not from the petrol station. But “appartment explodes” ain’t as good as “petrol station explodes”

pjohnson

There really aint much police training it seems just try to make sure you know which bit of the gun to point away from you and just start blasting seems to be the extent of it.

Beasty

I am seeing nothing to suggest he was shot "for" eating at McDonslds

Thread title amended

twowheelsonly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720250#Comment_119720250

2018 statistics show that: " About 61.5 million residents had at least one contact with police."

That's an incredibly high number and shows that most cases are just routine and the controversial ones only make up a tiny percentage of the overall total. It's even more impressive given how many firearms are floating around as well as the drugs and general violence issues.

In the same year, there were 39,740 gun deaths (24,432 suicides - 13,958 homicides) which equates to 109 per day. 983 of these were shot by cops. 458 of these were white and 228 black.

Overall that shows that gun deaths by cops per encounter with the public are about .0015% which for a gun ridden society is lower that I would have expected.

2018 Police stats from here:  https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cbpp18st.pdf

And here: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720787#Comment_119720787

Remarkably the minor in the video will live apparently, so what stat category does he go in to?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720220#Comment_119720220

I'll be sure to note if you're killed by police unarmed that your family need not be trifled you were an incredibly small statistic.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720250#Comment_119720250

You won't find them because of the many thousands of police departments across the united states far from all of them even report such incidents.

One of the better sources we have is the 4th estate for that reason.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

The feds began collection finally under the Obama administration but the record isn't complete

https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/need-an-fbi-service-or-more-information/ucr/use-of-force

In 2022, 8,046 out of 18,514 federal, state, local, and tribal law enforcement agencies throughout the nation participated and provided use-of-force data. The officers employed by these agencies represent 61% federal, state, local, and tribal sworn officers in the nation.

https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/le/uof

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119721730#Comment_119721730

Thank you.

It will be a consolation that I was exceptional in leaving life as I was in living it.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119721838#Comment_119721838

Funny, but you are trivializing, not highlighting, these deaths.

The number of unarmed people shot dead each year by them, nevermind innocent people, is incredibly small, especially given how violent and armed the society they police is.

Therefore they don't matter, don't need to be addressed, or discussed?

Gatling

The cop was sacked, but it's likely he will end up getting a job at another department

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119721878#Comment_119721878

It's too **** easy. There's no background checking between departments, you're lucky if they google your name and find something.

eg., several of the unfit Uvalde officers quickly found jobs in other departments. It wasn't until members of the Public found out about it that the hiring department 'realized their mistake'

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/07/uvalde-school-police-suspended/

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119721924#Comment_119721924

In some case they are very much aware of who and what they are hiring,

Tonesjones

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61218611

Police officers being murdered at an unprecedented rate. Not surprising to see some officers panicking when dealing with incidents of non compliance

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119722676#Comment_119722676

if this op has made anything clear in his many many cop bashing posts it is that he doesn't care about dead cops, it goes against his agenda

I tried to point that out to him once and he sent me 50 odd unsolicited PM for a few weeks.

EOQRTL

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119722676#Comment_119722676

It's an awful job and then look at these defund the police idiots always running them down.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119722676#Comment_119722676

The cop's have shot and killed thousands literally thousands over the last 30 years,

Tonesjones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119723288#Comment_119723288

Yes in the line of duty. Serving the public by dealing with the absolute dregs of society.

Many times in a kill or be killed situation. Be thankful for them you might rely on a police officer to put his or her life on the line to save yours

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119723333#Comment_119723333

No in a lot of case's it's a simple case of trigger happy cops who rarely lose their jobs or face the courts for shooting unarmed civilian's

Tonesjones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119723354#Comment_119723354

Let's hope you never need one.

Maybe they won't bother coming.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119723363#Comment_119723363

I'd make sure to shoot first