Refugees sent to Martha’s Vineyard

Danno

DeSantis move to fly migrants to Martha’s Vineyard stokes outrage - The Washington Post

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Thursday defended flying migrants from Texas to a Massachusetts resort island unprepared to receive them — a move that was sharply condemned by human rights advocates and Democrats and marked an escalation of GOP efforts to make a political point by sending undocumented immigrants to liberal enclaves.

Interesting move by DeSantis, if a bit cheeky. Mid-terms are coming soon and the refugee issue has somewhat slipped off the radar owing to the cost of living crisis and the fall out from Roe-v-Wade earlier in the summer. No doubt its a cheeky but clever move to fire up the Republican base ahead of upcoming elections.

xxxxxxl

Ha so it's ok for democrats to call them undocumented immigrants when it suits it seems ? Were they not Refugees a while ago.

Real Donald Trump

Locals don't seem to happy about it, funny that, isn't it? not on my doorstep

super_furry

A bit cheeky?

Lying to vulnerable people to get them on a plane, promising them jobs and housing, falsely filling in forms and forging addresses? It's psychotic.

Playing with people's lives just to make some cheapy, gaudy political point.

https://twitter.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/1570789631570096128?s=20&t=OwiInxzjP8EeEkWzp47laA

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627636#Comment_119627636

Isn't he just doing what alot of NGOs operating outside of the US and EU do when dealing with migrants?

Gatling

Turning up in newyork and other states over the last few weeks

super_furry

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627662#Comment_119627662

No.

Dyr

Lets just enjoy the hypocrisy, lads

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627636#Comment_119627636

No it's what called putting your money where your mouth is. Rich White Lefties shown up. They were probably at rallies with signs supporting Refugees until this happened. Hypocrisy annoys me.

StrawbsM

But when 50 showed up they sent them packing again 😂

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058263683/refugees-sent-to-martha-s-vineyard

No doubt it’ll fire up some Republicans, but it wasn’t cheeky, it was just scummy behaviour.

Unexpected, but only because it’s a new low.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627690#Comment_119627690

Were sending Ukrainian refugees all over Ireland is that Scummy also ? Or are they only allowed into certain areas ?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627636#Comment_119627636

Oh please. You think those immigrants wanted Florida? They want anywhere usa, and truth is, if in blue states they will be better cared for, won't they?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627686#Comment_119627686

At least they were fed this time, right. My understanding is they were lured on to the plane and not given anything to eat. correction: They were lured with food

It's funny MA activated the national guard to help these people out, FL just had to activate it's national guard to run its prisons - because they are understaffed and underfunded... even though FL seemingly has $12M lying around to move migrants from Texas, to Massachusetts, 2 States not even connected to it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627636#Comment_119627636

It's the reverse freedom rides out of the South all over again.

They thought it was just as clever to 'own the libs' then as now.

Montage of Feck

Surely transporting illegal emmigrants across state lines would be a federal offence.

Strumms

How will they afford to live there, it’s crazy expensive in terms of shopping, eating out, groceries..

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627678#Comment_119627678

What hypocrisy? All I've seen them do is provide food, shelter, aid, legal counsel, etc.

https://twitter.com/paulbunyun15/status/1570781742814101504?s=20&t=Q0spGpKK2UG5c_lcF_i5dA

Meanwhile: The people who flew them there under false pretense call themselves Christians.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627713#Comment_119627713

Got a link to that ?

They were most lightly marched onto a plane like they are marched into the back of vans to goto processing centres and Refugee camps and alike. Or are you suggesting the USA gov suggests the local bus stop down the Road may be hard to get the bus though if they have no local currency. And I'm saying Gov as in Democrat or Republican.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627696#Comment_119627696

No, and there’s no comparison between the two completely different and unrelated circumstances. We aren’t sending Ukrainian refugees anywhere, and this thread is about a US Republican politician who perpetrated a scummy act in the hope of currying favour with Republicans.

Thing is, the vast majority of Republicans aren’t scumbags, so his stupidity is likely to backfire as the vast majority of Republicans won’t appreciate his scumbaggery.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627734#Comment_119627734

They were most lightly marched onto a plane like they are marched into the back of vans to goto processing centres and Refugee camps and alike. 

You asked me for my source then dove into generating a baseless assumption?

Overheal

The migrants said a woman they identified as "Perla" approached them outside the shelter and lured them into boarding the plane, saying they would be flown to Boston where they could get expedited work papers. She provided them with food. The migrants said Perla was still trying to recruit more passengers just hours before their flight.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123109768/migrants-sent-to-marthas-vineyard

https://www.thedailybeast.com/migrant-claims-he-was-paid-dollar200-to-recruit-others-for-perla-in-marthas-vineyard-stunt

That is when a well-dressed woman who introduced herself as Perla handed him and about 30 other migrants gift cards for the fast-food restaurant, which they gladly accepted. Then she made an enticing offer: a free flight to a “sanctuary,” he recalled, where there were people to help them get on their feet. The place was called Massachusetts. Was that close to New York, Mr. Nazareth asked. She assured him that it was, and that onward travel would be available, if that is where he hoped to settle.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/us/marthas-vineyard-venezuela-migrants.html

Correction: they were lured with food.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627768#Comment_119627768

Baseless how ? How do you think Refugees are processed ? Normally escorted to centres by police or security of some kind. Your illegal until processed.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627784#Comment_119627784

I already demonstrated that your imagination is running away from the truth. See post above. TX and FL did not hijack the Customs and Border Patrol nor Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Dyr

You can always tell that the Republicans have landed something on the Democrats when Overheal starts spamming the crap out of a thread

Absolute Zero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627677#Comment_119627677

And we can't let the dark side win.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627866#Comment_119627866

Is that what that means? I'd check out the Hunter Biden thread, if you can tell me what they have landed there I'm dying to know 🤣

elperello

Weaponising the dispossessed.

padd b1975

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627726#Comment_119627726

Let's see how the next few weeks go before we start the back-slapping eh?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628065#Comment_119628065

I don't follow?

padd b1975

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628073#Comment_119628073

Will they still be as motivated to provide food, shelter, aid, legal counsel etc?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628096#Comment_119628096

I don't see why not?

That's not even the correct comparator for "back slapping" - are they going to be less motivated to ... not separate the kids from the family members? That would be the correct comparator.

State officials said they had a plan to assist the migrants who decide to stay on the base, including clothing, personal hygiene kits and food. The migrants will have access to health care and mental health counseling in their native language. The base is unable to accept donations, officials said.

They will also be given access to legal counseling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2022/09/16/migrants-desantis-marthas-vineyard/

MakersMark

Its a good thing.

Dozens of cities declared themselves as sanctuary cities where undocumented migrants could live without fear of deportation.

The Texas governor is just helping migrants get to these sanctuaries.

Everyone wins!

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628165#Comment_119628165

The Reverse Freedom Rides were a good thing?

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119627690#Comment_119627690

Why was it "scummy"

Surely these refugees will be way better off in Martha's? It's not like Martha's residents were not signed up for this?

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628428#Comment_119628428

It was scummy because it was a publicity stunt designed to curry favour with Republicans by entirely deceitful and spiteful means. You’re obviously well aware that there was no consideration given to the welfare of the immigrants in question, so don’t expect I should entertain your feigned stupidity.

MakersMark

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628285#Comment_119628285

Are you saying that the sanctuary cities were just pretending to be sanctuaries, and that the left hates immigration when it affects their communities?

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628096#Comment_119628096

Apparently not, they've been promptly moved on to a military base on big yellow Yankee buses.

Dyr

Unfortunate

https://twitter.com/MostlyPeacefull/status/1570878422532100096/photo/1

Jarhead_Tendler

Refugees have been flying into an island that isn't ready for them here in the Atlantic for the last 30 years

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628475#Comment_119628475

It was scummy in your eyes only champ, unless you disagree with migrant quotas? Perhaps this "stunt" will see a policy such as migrant quotas be implemented?

Real Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628544#Comment_119628544

Oh dear, just shows what they really think of them.

SafeSurfer

Immigrants are already bussed and planed throughout the states so it is already happening. Similar to European states taking a proportion of immigrants/refugees. Or should Texas, Florida etc accommodate them all?

If it was to "own the libs" ("let's see what the rich white liberals of MV think of this!") then it was entirely vindictive, childish and petty, even if the refugees do get on well there for now following this sudden development. Oh my god, DeSantis just turned 44. Man child central.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628480#Comment_119628480

Martha’s Vineyard isn’t a city.

francois

Tediously obvious move to deflect from the anti choice SCOUTUS ruling.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628557#Comment_119628557

I caqn't believe these immigrants that arrived in Marthas Vinyard have now been sent from there to another place, that's, like, totally scummy and, like, human trafficking or something

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628646#Comment_119628646

That’s what I said the other day about it. Brown Scare is their last go-to tactic for the midterms. It worked great for them in 2018, “migrant invasion” was a 24/7 headline until the day after election then it became “what caravan, Trump is securing the border!”

SafeSurfer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628661#Comment_119628661

The Republicans would be better off using the massive surge in crime in the last two years. Murder rates up by almost a third, number of police officers murdered in 2021 alone increased by almost 60%!

Democrats can’t call on police to be defunded, call them bigots and racists without making ordinary police officers targets in their communities.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628557#Comment_119628557

Well that’s clearly not true as the stunt has been widely criticised and condemned, so in my eyes only? Nope.

And this stunt has nothing to do with migrant quotas either, it was purely a scummy stunt in its own right, precisely for its intent and the manner in which it was perpetrated.

If politicians wanted to introduce migrant quotas, then it’s not a lot to expect that they should be able to do so with honesty and integrity, as opposed to engaging in deceitful and spiteful publicity stunts exploiting people in already desperate circumstances.

Undoubtedly there will be some Americans who call themselves Republican who, like you, will think of this nonsense as a master stroke altogether, but this stunt isn’t representative of Republicans, it’s just representative of the kind of behaviour of utter scumbags who have no concept of the value of human life.

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628807#Comment_119628807

Well that’s clearly not true as the stunt has been widely criticised and condemned, so in my eyes only? Nope.

NEWSFLASH - Sheep bleat.

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119628661#Comment_119628661

I don't follow - did DeSantis send too many, or not enough?