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Guy lay dead in apartment for more than a week



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,690 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia

    Was he just lying in the middle of the floor or something? how did the people who came and went know there was a dead guy in the flat?

    I know the smell would give it away after a few days, but I'm guessing this place already had it's own aroma with or without a corpse to add to it

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  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭Ham_Sandwich

    terrible thing to happen the goverment should be doing more for people with addiction issues

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL

    In what prisons? Do you think we should let violent criminals, sex abusers, murderers etc... out of the limited space we have in prison for Anto just because he's a drug addict?

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,526 ✭✭✭Jequ0n

    Why is it so surprising that nobody missed a junkie or noticed him lying around in a drug den?

  • Registered Users Posts: 28,012 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78

    unfortunately, addict's are generally only truly interested in fulfilling their needs, resulting in serious situations being largely ignored, yes, this is where we re at, we ve been largely ignoring these type of issues in our society, its clearly obvious we have extremely serious drug addict problems, which are general due to major social failures, failures in providing citizens with their most critical of needs, from security of accommodation, adequate health care services, and other critical welfare needs, and beyond, and yes, this is a problem of our own creation, and not of the addict's themselves!

  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr

    And yet, the vast, vast majority of people in this country are neither drug addicts or criminals.

    I wonder what the difference is?

  • Registered Users Posts: 28,012 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78

    ...its clearly obvious, we re not all the same! we dont all grow up with the exact same conditions in place, we dont all have the exact same opportunities in life.....

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭StrawbsM

    If you read the last page of the gangland thread it will give you an insight into the dead man’s life. If true, seems he was lured there. But then you’ve got to imagine that there were others there so strung out just watching him be murdered.

    A scene from trainspotting is right.

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy

    Apparently he was out the back on the balcony, so that would explain the lack of a smell inside the flat, and perhaps why the McVerry people didn't notice him...

  • Registered Users Posts: 28,012 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78

    yup, a truly fcuked up mind, that requires serious professional help to try rectify

  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr

  • Registered Users Posts: 28,012 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78

    theres plenty of evidence to support that if you are born in a more affluent area, you have far less chances of ending up in such situations, you are far more likely to succeed in creating a successful career, due to many factors, including building good social circles, which helps greatly in such outcomes.

    on the opposite end of the scale, theres actually a very good chance, you ll end up as so....

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭The Mighty Quinn

    Completely understand that, have seen that, but doesn't make it less sad for me. Not this one person in particular, who by all accounts had inflicted violence on others, so I have sympathy for his victims, but for this type of case in general.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six

    The main difference would be opportunities and parenting. I'm pretty sure you didn't have the same type of upbringing as Tony.

  • Registered Users Posts: 28,012 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78

    yes, the majority of people from less affluent areas do not become criminals, but again, theres plenty of evidence to support that more criminal outcomes come from such areas, meaning, this is not just a genetic problem, but a social problem, i.e. of our making, by not making sure all receive critical supports throughout the entire life of individuals, in order to prevent such outcomes, i.e. we re creating this ourselves! i think criminals should walk freely, seriously! if the criminal justice system deems individuals require incarceration, thats what should happen, this is what i believe! so i suspect your comment is wrong there!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭thefallingman

    Giving them injection centers is making it worse, it's not dealing with the problem it's facilitating it.

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