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two Olympic size rinks Dublin

  • 11-09-2022 9:06pm
    Registered Users Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭cena

    This is taken from the Irish ice hockey association facebook page




    8 SEPTEMBER 2022,

    Today the Irish Winter Sports Strategy Coordination Group, strengthened their case for the construction of a National Winter Sports Centre in Ireland by publishing the findings of a feasibility study conducted by CHL consulting and presenting a private investor funded model that would deliver a €60m permanent ice-facility for Ireland at little or no cost to the tax-payer.

    In a series of presentations to stakeholders including local authorities, Sport Ireland, and the Minister of State for Sport, Jack Chambers, the benefits of the facility were explained by the Winter Sport National Federations and senior representatives from the World Governing Bodies for Ice Hockey, Curling and Luge, along with private investors willing to develop the facility at little or no cost to the tax-payers.

    There is no permanent ice facility in the Republic of Ireland. Our closest neighbours in Great Britain are already reaping the rewards of ice facilities, with 62 permanent rinks. There are also two very successful permanent ice-facilities in Belfast, the Dundonald International Ice Bowl and the SSE Arena.

    The benefits of a permanent facility are far reaching. The feasibility study conducted by CHL shows that a National Winter Sports Centre would generate an economic impact for Ireland of €111 million and deliver €25.5 million to the exchequer during construction phase, as well as €2.05 million annually once operational. Besides the recreational and sporting benefits, it is also estimated that it would generate an additional €8.9 million annual spend in the Greater Dublin Area.

    The proposed facility would house two Olympic sized rinks, with one rink having capacity for 6,000 spectators, providing multi-use options for ice and non-ice entertainment, concerts, ice-hockey matches and events, similar to Belfast’s SSE Arena, filling a significant gap in the Dublin market for a mid-size, multi-purpose venue.

    Besides the strong economic case for support of a permanent ice-facility, the sport and social benefits also align very strongly with the recommendations from the government’s National Sports Policy. Ice sports generally offer complete gender balance, as well as a wide age-range of participants through sports like curling, ice skating and ice-hockey. Ice facilities also play a significant role in social integration, particularly at a time when Ireland is welcoming large numbers of people from countries where winter sports are integrated with their own cultural identity.

    Speaking at the launch of the feasibility study, CEO of the Olympic Federation of Ireland Peter Sherrard said,

    “The presentations by the Winter Sports and investors, underpinned by CHL’s feasibility study, show that we have a huge opportunity to create a National Winter Sports centre at little or no cost to the tax payer. Hundreds of new jobs will be created, Ireland will benefit from an investment of over €60m and our sports will at last have permanent facilities akin to almost every other country in the EU. We look forward to working with Government and local authority stakeholders to capitalise on this inward investment opportunity for our economy and our sports.”

    Visiting Dublin to present the case along with Ireland’s Winter Sport Federations, International Ice Hockey (IIHF) President, Luc Tardif added,

    “Ice facilities have the potential to be economically lucrative. They have the ability to function within multi-sport facilities that can subsequently attract not just ice hockey fans or ice skating fans in general, but fans of other sports, music concerts, expositions, and congresses. We have seen this work effectively with venue development and management not just in our top ice-hockey playing nations, but within developing ice-hockey nations also. With good will and all stakeholders working together, this could be a huge success for Ireland.”

    World Curling’s Head of Development, Scott Arnold, was also in Dublin, lending his support to the project,

    “The World Curling Federation is happy to support our valued Member, the Irish Curling Association. They have accomplished so much without a dedicated ice rink, and we are encouraged by what we heard during the meetings here in Dublin this week. We have seen exponential growth from other WCF Member Associations upon the completion of their first dedicated ice rinks and would expect nothing less in Ireland. The ICA’s dedication is inspirational, and we look forward to following their progress and continuing to help them achieve their goals.”

    Markus Aschauer, Chairman of the Track Construction Commission at the International Luge Federation said,

    "The International Luge Federation is delighted to be supporting this project which we believe will help grow our sport in Ireland and attract future athletes into winter sports. There is no better way to introduce people to luge and sliding sports than by giving them the opportunity to slide on ice and experience our sport first-hand. The start track will also provide the Irish luge team with a fantastic training facility that is local and reduces the need to travel abroad.”

    Speaking from Dublin, Viesturs Koziols, Chairman of Facilities with IIHF added,

    “A new multifunctional arena in Ireland will be used by tens of thousands of people, and will become a landmark and signature for a modern Dublin City. The social aspect of it cannot be underestimated, due to the fact that investment in projects like this is much cheaper than investments in hospitals and healthcare. Arenas are the safest place for kids to be and gives them a great sporting outlet where they can learn teamwork and enjoy the related social, health and sporting benefits.”



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭cena

    I am all for it. But what do other people think?

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭cena

    I don't think so. The IIHA wouldn't want to have the government near this after years of trying to get funding

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,418 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    If it's privately built and operated, then work away. Going by the above comment, they don't want government involvement, so yeah, work away. But Dublin, again, as if it's the only place in Ireland and it's full of space, ease of access and cheap to live in or visit.....................

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭growleaves

    There was an ice rink in Dundalk previously, I don't know why it closed.

    Sam Goldwyn: "I'm tired of the old clichés. Bring me some new ones."

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,418 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Was closed to open under new management but hasn't happened yet.

    Put them in Castletown, Westmeath, the literal center of Ireland.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭growleaves

    Sam Goldwyn: "I'm tired of the old clichés. Bring me some new ones."

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,484 ✭✭✭happyoutscan

    I'd love to see this go ahead but I'd have my doubts.

    Shame, ice hockey is a great game and ice skating is a fantastic activity for all age groups.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭amacca

    Which one? Isn't there two castletowns in Westmeath?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,418 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    I just googled central point of Ireland, Castletown Geoghan.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    “Little or no cost to the taxpayer”. *Weeps. *Laughs

    Try it sometime.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭Gusser09

    It should go ahead. This is why we cant progress at anything in this country. People wont invest in infrastructure.

  • Registered Users Posts: 27 TheCrank

    There has been one in Belfast for about 35 years. Owned and run by Castlereagh City Council. No reason it can't happen here.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭cena

    Planet ice uk was to take it, but now dkit owns the building. They won't hear of a rink going back into. The IIHA offered good money to lease the building off them

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭cena

    Greatly used still. They going to build a new rink behind this one.

  • I'd love to see it happen. Currently the only Ice Hockey team on this Island is the Belfast Giants who I support.

    There's zero reason for a relatively well off country like Ireland not to have one.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭cena

    it would be great to see a pro team here and be able to go to games

  • I used to live in a city much smaller than Dublin and went to their games all the time.

    My final concern is tickets for a dublin team will be extortionate, as opposed to a cheap night out.

  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭Pixel Eater

    I'm always surprised each winter to see kids whizzing around the temporary ice rinks they set up... where did they learn?!

    Anyway, Dublin should definitely have a permanent one. It's odd we don't have one at this stage especially considering the amount of Eastern Europeans here who are (presumingly) more into winter sports than the natives.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭timmyntc

    Won't happen. Ireland doesn't do minority sports - only football gaa and horseracing

    Now if they were to add horses to the ice rink, and the odd high ball in to the square, then you've got a proposal for sport ireland. Gaelic Ice-horsing.

  • I used to travel to Bratislava quite a lot and tried to watch HC Slovan play if I could. I really enjoyed it as it was something a bit different. It was very much something that Dad took the kids too as well, very family oriented.

    I can’t see it happening here though. They’ll find some land, apply for planning permission and then PBP or some other bottom feeders will start shouting “what about the homeless people” and the whole thing will turn into a political got potato

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,913 ✭✭✭Princess Calla

    I think it's a great idea.

    Dublin had 2 one in phibsborough and one in Dolphins Barn they closed down in the 90's.

    It's kinda embarrassing that a "wealthy" country like Ireland can't provide these facilities.

  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭Ham_Sandwich

    theyve money for this but not for proper facilities in areas like darndale or finglas

  • Registered Users Posts: 30,929 ✭✭✭✭gmisk

    I haven't been in a while, but the shopping etc space in the same facility as the rink is literally dying on its arse. Real shame to see, I don't think there is much in it now bar w5

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    I can't see it happening myself. I think ice skating is already ingrained as a Christmas festival hobby here. I cant see it being profitable in Spring or Summer and it' expensive to maintain.

    With all the fuss about energy levels I don't think it will be taken on.

    Thats without the insurance aspect.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,885 ✭✭✭cena

    We have jr kids, women and men's national team.

    The ladies are heading to Kuwait to play soon and kids are going to Canada to play in October.

    All tax payer free. Self funded

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,023 ✭✭✭✭salmocab

    Be great to see, used to go to dolphins barn regularly probably early 90s. Was in Canada around 2006 and was surprised to learn I could still skate quite well although suspect the knees wouldn’t be keen anymore.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,532 ✭✭✭✭Del2005

    There's plenty of other sports that people represent Ireland in with zero tax payers money. Its crazy to see professional national teams with huge resources and then the Irish team rocks up with feck all because its self funded.

    The theory sounds good on the ice rink but there is a massive recession coming and cheap money is finished so getting €60m might not be aa easy as they think and then they have to get planning permission.

    Then they will need public liability insurance, I thought all the companies had pulled out of Ireland

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603

    maybe they could stick it on to the national sports campus and national aquatic center in blanch.