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Shocking Discovery Limerick

  • 05-09-2022 4:21pm
    Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭Conversations 3

    Edit: true

    Just a bit shocking that this is happening, wasn't there a similar story out of Galway last year?

    Post edited by K.G. on


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,271 ✭✭✭893bet

    The industry?

    is this a single farm? Hardly seems to be an industry problem based on that screen shot.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,271 ✭✭✭893bet

    Ah. It’s behind a paywall. You ain’t read it either but choose to come here and…..offer no opinion.

    What do you think happened?

    How does this relate to the industry?

    What industry exactly is it you refer to?

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,204 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe

    ***** Text from Irish Times *****

    The Department of Agriculture has begun an investigation at a Limerick farm after almost 400 calves were found dead.

    The animals — predominantly Friesian and Jersey type bull calves — were discovered on the farm in the south of Limerick.

    It is understood that the calves died due to a variety of issues, including disease and malnutrition. The discovery was made following a complaint from a neighbour over a smell coming from the farm.

    Last year, 270 dead calves were discovered on a farm specifically set up as a calf rearing unit in northeast Galway. The calves had died as a result of disease and malnutrition and the Department launched an investigation into the matter. At the time, the incident was viewed as one of the biggest animal welfare incidents in the history of the State.

    Animal welfare regarding Friesian and Jersey dairy bred bull calves has been an ongoing concern for the dairy industry in Ireland which prides itself on welfare standards. Typically dairy bull calves are low value animals, with poor potential to fatten for the beef trade due to their dairy genetics. Roughly 200,000 of these types of calves are exported every year to veal farms in continental Europe while those that remain are sometimes sold for as little as €5 each.

    Since the abolition of dairy quotas in 2015, the number of dairy cows in the country has been increasing.

    Figures from the Department of Agriculture show that there are nearly half a million more calves born to dairy dams every year — an increase of 46 per cent since 2011.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 541 ✭✭✭cavellaria

    Time to bite the bullet and set up a veal industry here, at least for export.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,704 ✭✭✭✭Base price

    It's irrelevant whether or not there is a veal industry here and if there was it would loss making as the product would primarily be for export. Input costs have risen considerably in the past year - cmr has gone up by €1,000/ton and rising, vaccines, meds, Vet costs etc on top of increased transport costs. I looked into rearing veal nine or ten years ago and even back then you would be producing at a loss.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,190 ✭✭✭

    I completed concur with you. RTE seems to have concluded the investigation and all calves dead are bulls. Fair play to them.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,704 ✭✭✭✭Base price

    Their anti livestock agenda is coming to the fore and they are not the only media outlet to show similar bias.

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  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ Beckett Late Witticism

    If people aren't careful,the dept are gonna start demanding lads produce a permit or be QA certified to buy calves

    Wiping out alot of ould lads who rear small numbers in bits of acres and gardens around the country (who do nothing wrong as per this case)

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,954 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey

    I'm curious about that statement.

    In what way would the person require minding if this is a genuine case of negligence?

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,954 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey

    I'm sure it could be argued that every single person who finds themselves before the courts facing criminal charges deserves to be protected in the name of such.

  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭1373

    Heard the report on RTE this evening, no anti livestock agenda apparent. Just reported how it was discovered and the numbers involved

  • Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Packrat

    Fierce silence altogether today on a couple of other threads here very relevant to this case. .

    It's as if they didn't hear about it or maybe dont want to.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm

    How can we comment on something when we know nothing of the circumstances - do you imagine we are all familiar with this case

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭White Clover

    Go back and listen to it again. Plenty insinuations made. Impartial journalism my ar*e.

  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭Silverdream

    Strange how 400 animals can just be let die like that. What about all this Traceability we hear about.

    I had an inspection last year, 2 animals out of 95 had 1 tag missing. jazus yourman nearly wrote a book about it in for the report even though I had th replacement tags.

    I must move the farm to limerick

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,432 ✭✭✭Birdnuts

    It will be interesting to see if the farm was Bord Bia approved.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,106 ✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions

    Is there anything to be gained having a thread like this?

    There are too many details missing and some on here might even name/shame who they think the farmer involved is, which might not be the right person at all.

    Others will use this case to insult all farmers on this thread.

    Genuine question for MODS: what's the benefit of this thread? There are several other threads where the pros and cons of low-value bull calves from dairy cows are being teased out, without any sensational headlines, and where there's more light than heat unlike what's likely to be said on this thread.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101

    What happened to the famer/s involved in this case?

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,204 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe

    How can it go from 400 today in The Times article, to 100 tonight on RTE news?


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