183k PPSNs Issued first half of the year

The Mighty Quinn · 17-08-2022 03:48PM

I have always liked the idea of building a new city. Starting again, a 'do-over'. In theory it's a romantic idea, how nice to have a functioning planned city, plenty of green areas, high rises, schools and shopping areas neatly spaced around residential areas..........

Then I remember it's Ireland, and we simply couldn't possibly do it right. We'd spend at least a decade arguing about the location of this new city, after which it'd be decided that it would be built in Phoenix Park.

Luxembourgo · 17-08-2022 08:43PM

Any indication on what percentage pay tax?

Dyr · 17-08-2022 09:27PM

Cover your eyes and repeat the mantra ore else you'll become a racist:

THISISNOTAPROBLEM

Patrick2010 · 17-08-2022 09:50PM

Theres no point in complaining, the population is only going to increase due to various factors such as Ukraine, the end of direct provision and the attraction of own door accommodation after only 3 months for asylum seekers. The natives just need to accept ever longer housing lists and hospital waiting lists.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 17-08-2022 09:52PM

That's a lot less homes for actual Irish people.

FAILSAFE 00 · 17-08-2022 09:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483653#Comment_119483653

It not quite another immigration thread... it was imported.

Kermit.de.frog · 17-08-2022 11:05PM

https://twitter.com/brookereilly_x/status/1559861276918140928

How many new arrivals are arriving on these shores each week?

Where are they going to live? Are they displacing Irish people or will they join the homeless statistics?

It's one or the other.

I think we are headed for serious trouble. Not enough to go around.

John Doe1 · 17-08-2022 11:15PM

Jesus, at that rate by the next census there will be an extra 3/4 million by the next census.

There is absolutely no way that the Ukrainians are going home, those that came in the weeks after the invasion were genuine refugees from the east, those that followed are simply after EU membership and money.

Irish_rat · 17-08-2022 11:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484254#Comment_119484254

That's actually a scary trend.

Immigration needs to be radically reduced. We've had an extra million in population since the early noughties, that basically an extra 25% crammed into this small island and you can tell the difference between now and then.

It will only get worse. A hard stop needs to come into place, eu only entry needs to be enforced and stricter visa entry.

Strumms · 17-08-2022 11:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484245#Comment_119484245

Err How many flights and how many safe countries would you pass through and over to get to Dublin…. 🫤

skyscanner can’t even work it out ffs….

is being poor a reason to seek assylum ?

Firblog · 17-08-2022 11:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487420#Comment_119487420

Nothing to say that they are seeking asylum or refugee status, they may be doctors or nurses coming to work for the HSE, and need a PPSN..

kippy · 17-08-2022 11:53PM

None of this is new however (granted the Ukrainian situation has add more numbers that you could argue weren't predicted) but on one hand we have know that our population is trending upwards and as I've said earlier this is something that is required if we are to maintain a relatively stable economy into the future.

The issue is we, as a nation, are not able to plan, implement and maintain the very basic systems required to deal with an ever increasing population.

It doesn't matter if you are 'irish' or whatever tag you'd like to give someone if you live here the problems we have will effect you.

Strumms · 17-08-2022 11:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487447#Comment_119487447

😂😂😂

kippy · 17-08-2022 11:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484704#Comment_119484704

There are many reasons for this perpetual housing crisis we have. Without people coming into the country the demographics will financially cripple us anyway

Real Donald Trump · 17-08-2022 11:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487447#Comment_119487447

Don't forget the engineers

lmao

kippy · 17-08-2022 11:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487492#Comment_119487492

Not as funny as you think it is. We have a hell of a lot of people coming into the country to work for obvious reasons.....the figures both on the employment and unemployment side should display that.

18-08-2022 12:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487416#Comment_119487416

It's worked out so well for other western nations... That's the real problem here. Multiculturalism leads to division, social instability, wealth inequalities, greater strain on welfare and services, etc.

Every other European country is now starting to limit their immigration intake, and also limiting the benefits/rights extended to foreign groups.. but we're not. They're also starting to recognise and not ignore the wide range of negatives associated with foreign populations. Instead, we're fast catching up with other countries who have been dealing unsuccessfully with integration for decades before Ireland became a desired location to move to, except we're nowhere near acknowledging the negatives involved. I doubt we're going to see any RTE shows or a primetime report on any negative of immigration, except where Irish people have failed in some way.

As for existing numbers (and future intake).. we're already kinda screwed because the current population will have families larger than Irish people generally have, and their children will do the same after the grow up. They've retained their own cultures, especially the emphasis on larger family sizes.

As you said we really do need to limit immigration, and more importantly, place greater emphasis on bringing in immigrants who stand the highest chance of remaining self-sufficient/employed over the long term. But it's not going to happen.

Nothing to see here. Sure, it'll be grand. Don't look into the future, in the short term everything looks great!

Strumms · 18-08-2022 12:04AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487498#Comment_119487498

183,000 though ? Bit funny alright..

18-08-2022 12:04AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487447#Comment_119487447

More likely they're part of the drive to normalise the illegal (Ahem! undocumented) migrants (roughly 30K) that the government extended their amnesty towards. Some will be part of the HSE, or any normal immigration process.. but there's going to be a lot that aren't.

kippy · 18-08-2022 12:22AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487512#Comment_119487512

The 41k Irish nationals are mostly babies who are a while away from the workplace I'd suggest. Over 40k are Ukrainian, who may be short/medium term and not all of working age.

Our unemployment rates is trending down generally and our employment rate is trending up......

Pussyhands · 18-08-2022 08:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487494#Comment_119487494

Fcuk the financials, we're crippled now.

is_that_so · 18-08-2022 08:24AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058259154/183k-ppsns-issued-first-half-of-the-year

A lot of those non-EU, Ukraine aside, would be work vias and students who can work up to 20 hours a week. These days it is organised and controlled as in the past people were almost getting PPSN for just arriving in the country. Tens of thousands of PPSN were issued and are now defunct. Now if you need one you get one.

kippy · 18-08-2022 08:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487784#Comment_119487784

You've no idea how bad things will get if our demographics don't change.

The automatic assumption by many on this thread was that those PPSNs were issued to people whose only aim is to get the handouts. Which is very plainly a totally incorrect assumption.

We need to better plan and implement improvements for a growing population.