Minister 'misinterpreted the requirements' after failure to declare second house in Longford

Dempo1

This morning a few newspapers trying to compare Apples with Oranges in relation to #TroyStory.

It's embarrassing actually and their lazy journalism being called out, especially the Irish Times. What's telling and being pointed out is, they couldn't be bothered to simply check #RTB records when #TroyStory broke but more embarrassingly trying to equate Robert Troy's years of shenanigans and protracted misinterpretions is just Farcical. Two weeks into this and they suddenly find one or two TD'S, one most notably from the Main Opposition party 🙄, Bias alive and kicking in Irish MSM media.

The Ditch crew must being having a great laugh this morning with support growing at extraordinary levels.

BonnieSituation

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523429#Comment_119523429

Equally, someone admitting their guilt should be enough for you to accept that very same guilt.

Why don't you believe Robert Troy?

Why did you pass judgement on him by wanting him to resign?

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524280#Comment_119524280

A just responding to an earlier post About the Mob of Twitter 😏 Just Sayin , Fascinating you don't critise others in this regards Breni

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523696#Comment_119523696

It's 1000% this.

They don't care about the issue itself, so long as it causes damage to the government parties. That is the point.

Sure we had one of the most frequent posters in this thread say as much. They are all part of the same cultish behaviour when it comes to 'that' party. Always an equivication, always someone else fault.

Sure, when SF was found guilty of mass GDPR issues with the Abu website, the same poster created a thread and started to blame, not SF but the Data Protection Commissioner for not stepping in sooner. Couldn't make it up tbh.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524414#Comment_119524414

No Mark - consistent I think is the word.

The Ditch as I said way way back, certainly has an agenda, as have other media. I can't think of one media outlet that is fully independent and impartial. Can you? Name it if you do, or otherwise I will just assume you accept the premise.

I'm an adult, I have eyes and sometimes it's so blatant only somebody with their head in the sand could miss it.

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523892#Comment_119523892

It's embarrassing actually and their lazy journalism being called out, especially the Irish Times. What's telling and being pointed out is, they couldn't be bothered to simply check #RTB records when #TroyStory broke but more embarrassingly trying to equate Robert Troy's years of shenanigans and protracted misinterpretions is just Farcical. Two weeks into this and they suddenly find one or two TD'S, one most notably from the Main Opposition party 🙄, Bias alive and kicking in Irish MSM media.

The only thing embarrassing here is your constant mutterings and disparreging comments about the established mainstream media. Populist right-wing dangerous nonsense emitting from yourself in regards to this story and the wider Irish Media. MAGA hat nonsense.

If you have such a problem with it, why are you one of its loyal customers?

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524454#Comment_119524454

The media's duty is to hold politicians to account. That includes your beloved SF politicians Francie. I know SF and their supporters have an issue with this concept but alas, if they want to get over their historical view that Kangerro courts are OK, then they need to come into the light and accept that in a modern western liberal democracy the media is going to go after you, as it's their job.

Crying over the indo doing its 'duty' is fairly pathetic to be honest.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524433#Comment_119524433

Fecking love the phrasing here Mark. A masterstroke:

Sure, when SF was found guilty of mass GDPR issues with the Abu website

For the non sensationalists here, this is the OP of the thread in question, that I was told to open, if I wanted to widen out the discussion. Turns out I was right to ask the question as all parties were quickly found to have issues.

Deserves a thread if it's own with all parties having issues with compliance.

What are the implications of proper compliance to GDPR for Irish politics?

My opinion (not expert by any stretch) is that it is too restrictive in the modern age. I get that the data has to be available to people who want to know what is held on them But what are the implications of misuse of this data? Can anyone lay them out in a real world way?

Another question would be, what has the DPC being doing if this has been going on? Is he/she remiss in not checking this?

Brucie Bonus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523562#Comment_119523562

What you are pretending not to get is that the same people run and make the rules for 'the authorities'. We need what Kenny lied about to get into office, an end to cronyism, new politics etc. etc.

Brucie Bonus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119523696#Comment_119523696

SF have **** all to do with this. Its beyond a joke how everytime the government get caught out, we, the rest of us who have a problem with cronyism, have to talk about SF.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524471#Comment_119524471

It's funny how active you are in this thread now - deflect deflect deflect eh?

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524461#Comment_119524461

O Dear Marko ,Touched a nerve have I .

I've spoken about the media's absolute laziness but especially our National Broadcaster & yes the Irish Times & Independent , was I wrong 🤔🤔 we now have the embarrassing spectacle of them trying to catch up after the Train has left the station, this morning comparing apples & Oranges and getting your favourite party .it's preposterous. 12 years of misinterpretions rather more concerning but no one foolish enough to have suggested other politicians have failed in their ethical responsibilities.

You had the cheek to drag Trumpism into this discussion and now accuse me of peddling Right wing dangerous nonsense, really Marko is there no end to your dislike for other opinions . I'd ask for an apology but would be wasting my time.

Loyal Customer, do you mean I've Donated to the Ditch , how do you feel about my subscription to the Irish Times (I won't be renewing) how about my occasional donation to the Gaurdian, heavens above I'll have to review my subscription to Classic Cars magazine now 😳

Try badly as you do to disparage others Marko , I've nothing to hide and it seems to infuriate you , I won't be deterred with your silliness.

HerrKuehn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524526#Comment_119524526

The media should hold all politicians to account. All SF supporters do is attack the media if they hold their party to account, claiming bias. You have no interest in accountability or anything like that. It is the blatant hypocrisy of it that is so obvious to anyone outside the cult.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524471#Comment_119524471

The Independent has an agenda clear as day as has the Ditch.

No crying from me.

I noticed you sidestepped the question about truly independent media...message received loud and clear. 😉

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524526#Comment_119524526

Yes Brucie it's as predictable as getting 💩 on your wellies if you stand on a cow Dung.

Seems I've upset some by highlighting the factv Lazy Irish MSM belatedly trying to pluck info from the #RTB records, comparing what they've belatedly found to #TroyStory, utterly absurd its like comparing Apples & Oranges & coming up with SF. 12 years of Misinterpretions & this is all they can come with , beggar's belief.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524558#Comment_119524558

I saw very blatant attacks on the media on this very thread HK.

Guess who was carrying them out?

HerrKuehn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524615#Comment_119524615

em, you?

Cluedo Monopoly

Wrong thread

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524491#Comment_119524491

You have it there in black and white when SF were was caught with Abu. You

a) blamed the DPC

b) blamed the rules for being too strict, after the fact.

Thanks for confirming to me my point.

Brucie Bonus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524558#Comment_119524558

You assume its all sf supporters, that's the problem. Where do you think all of the lost FG voters went? To live on a desert island? Or do you think they became shinners?

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524620#Comment_119524620

No HerrK, by many government supporters.

Go look at the indignation and bile about the Ditch doing it's job. The Examiner routinely comes under fire from the same quarters.

You are remarkably short sighted.

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524542#Comment_119524542

When I say loyal customer I mean that you spend a lot of time being a customer of RTE and the like, yet you disparage them left right and centre. If you don't like it, watch/listen to something else maybe.

Going after mainstream media outlets is Right-wing populism 101.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-being-anti-media-is-now-part-of-the-gop-identity/

Its notable that those who don't like the government and have a love for the main opposition party, SF tend to hold the same view as the GOP and their voters.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524662#Comment_119524662

I didn't blame anyone...I ASKED A QUESTION.

And it turned out the answer was The DPC had missed issues across government parties. YET ANOTHER ineffective governmental regulatory body.

Poor you Mark...wrong again.

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524558#Comment_119524558

This.

SF and their supporters have an issue with the media. There is tonnes of data out there to support this.

You don't hear FF, FG, Greens or even Labour or SD supporters giving out about 'da media', it seems to be mostly SF and the odd oddball like Gemma or the Healy Raes.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524691#Comment_119524691

Curious how you ignored the paltry 36% of independents in US who trust the media also

Going after mainstream media outlets is Right-wing populism 101.

A pathetic strawman argument from you now, RTE and other publications have been rightly lambasted in this thread for their poor coverage of the Troy Story revelations for the last month - criticisms of them have been totally justified.

Criticisms of the ditch, the publication who broke the story, have not been so justified - many pro-government posters seem to have it out for them. I wonder why?🤔

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524691#Comment_119524691

O Marko your embarrassing yourself now, more stats just to prove how silly you are .

I'm not nor ever have been a customer of RTE & Before you ask I don't have a TV or license bit if your referring to License Holders being customers , well you really don't understand what a customer is.

Incidently can you point me to a single right wing Irish MAINSTREAM media organisation, I'm honestly not aware of one , are you 🤔

Do you propose to discuss #TroyStory or Irish MSM performance in relation to it 🤔 if not , I'll leave you to whatever your trying to do .

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524725#Comment_119524725

The Irish Daily Mail, it's Sunday equivalent, the Sunday Times Ireland and the Sun / it's Sunday equivalent are all right wing publications

If you don't judge them to be so, that doesn't mean they aren't.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524761#Comment_119524761

I'm sorry but describe any of these as Main stream media in Ireland is a Strech 🙄

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524810#Comment_119524810

The Mail and Sun have absolutely huge readership between paper sales and online. Certainly more than the Examiner and probably the Times

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524672#Comment_119524672

I am a lost FG supporter. Voted FG for 20 years. Vote Ind/SD now, 1 and 2.

I don't mind the media but I do think there is an establishment bias. Naturally I guess.

I don't care where a story comes from as long as it's true and impartial. The Ditch did a fine job on outing corruption that we all know is endemic.

Again I ask, why was the Mahon inspired 2015 Standard in Public Office bill killed off by FFG after years of delays????