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Got laminate installed, has matching boards next to eachother

  • 09-08-2022 01:34PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭


    Maybe just being too fussy here but was a bit annoyed to see two instances of the exact same pattern board being installed next to eachother, pics attached. Because its that light edge on a dark floor it really sticks out to me, and it happens twice in the hall.

    They've said it would set them back hours to correct it so it will have to do as we need them done by the end of the day for furniture arriving tomorrow.

    What are your thoughts?

    Would a bit of stain or something work? Or best to just live with it?


    IMG_20220809_123743_edit_31900745111277.jpg IMG_20220809_123741_edit_31917298523774.jpg




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭ozmo


    Fix it now if you are not happy - take the hit of a few hours (will probably only take a few minutes) - you will hate it forever and probably want to replace it quicker than you should....

    Unless that part is under furniture and you wont see it.

    I dont think you can stain laminate.

    “Roll it back”



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Agreed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭embracingLife


    Jesus that's brutal job, dunno how they can justify doing it and especially insist that they can't rectify it! They f-ing chancers!

    Stand your ground and make them redo it. Also you - and any other home owner who's reading this and experience tradesmen pulling a fast one on them - should have no qualms on telling them to fix it or you docking 500 euro from the final bill to pay another tradesman to rectify it later date! This usually nips this crap in the bud.

    When they said it'll take hours to fix it-for future reference - just say "that's your problem... why didn't you be more careful and be aware of your job". Tell them "they're here to do the job properly and not make a balls of it etc".

    I can't understand how tradesmen pull similar crap on people and fully expect to get away with it and not fix it and try to bull sh1t the customer into accepting the botched job!

    Tbh I'd say this fitter did this to spite you, to f* c k up your floor and make a laugh if you. There's lots of cn uts in this country who pull a fast one on people and fully expect to get away with it. You stand your ground in all instances of shoddy work and insist they do the job they are being paid for or else you will dock a substantial amount from the final bill to get someone else to fix it and if they want the outstanding money then you will let a judge in court decide whether they will get the money. When you say this it usually 99% of the time stops their ratty attitude immediately.

    They are in your house doing the job you agreed to pay them and you tell them that you fully expect them to do it properly or they have misled you into doing a job they are unable to do properly.

    I can tell you from experience in dealing with tradesmen, builders and property professionals of ALL sorts including architects /engineers /surveyors if they think you are a push over they will cut corners and walk all over you.... And fully expect you to pay them for it!


    I hope op got them to rectify this issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    thats a bit extreme . nothing really wrong there only preference. i persanally wouldnt have fitted them beside each other or at all if they are the only ones like that . but the customer ordered a natural looking product that has features like this . if they didnt want boards with those features they should have bought a diferent product or asked the installer to only use the ones they want



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I agree but thats a rookie mistake and it was done by someone that didn't know any better or someone that didn't care, either way no excuse. You'd expect a paid professional to get something a simple as that right.

    What makes it worse is that its one of the most prominent parts of the "pattern" that has been repeated. Many of the other pieces you'd hardly notice.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    its not in question if its right or wrong , its clearly right . its a preference only. i wouldnt do it myself

    but the previous poster is clearly over reacting and portraying the tradesman as some cowboy or scam artist . thats clearly not the case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    How can any professional laying laminate think thats right? Its not a preference its an obvious rookie mistake and immediately makes the floor look like cheap laminate when it doesn't need to.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭zidac


    I would like to see more of the floor as i sometimes think these what seem like errors end up being a kindof feature. I got a guy to build a brick feature some years ago, it was a mix pallet and it looks great. He told me he just did random and it looks great. Sometimes perfect just doesn't just work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    i mean its straight , flat , square ,no gaps etc.in that regard its fitted correctly its well fitted other than the two pieces with sap wood . the 2 boards are preference


    iv laid floors with bits like that hidden under beds etc and others where they wanted them on show



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,141 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    That would annoy me OP and I echo what the others say, if you don't fix it now, your eye will be drawn to it every time you go near that room. I also agree it is not fitted wrong, but lazy fitting lacking attention to detail and draws the attention that the floor is laminate rather than wood as the "print" is an exact match. A natural product would not have the exact same repeat and would be laid randomly.

    The conspiracy theory that Tradesmen are out to botch jobs to make a laugh out of customers is very strange. I pity any Tradesman darkening that door.

    Post edited by anewme on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    Unfortunately for a few reasons we had to just leave it, but I think it is fairly crap looking, especially as both instances happen in the same row. The quality of the actual job was really good, can't fault it but for that.

    The sample we looked at was made of boards that didn't have that very light colour, so it was a surprise to see it. I think regardless of the boards being right next to eachother it would be easy enough to spot them scattered around because it stands out so much.

    We had discussed the idea of a rug along that stretch anyway, prior to the floors being laid, but I had thought it would be a shame to cover the floors. Will probably do it now anyway.

    Attached a pic for further viewing.

    IMG_20220810_145952_edit_600077190012.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭zidac


    I think you are over-reacting and after a couple of weeks you will not notice. a little bit of wear and it will be fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I can see why the sample the OP looked at didn't have that light colour of sap wood, it might well have put people off buying it. The light areas looks natural in one respect in another it draws your eye to the fact there are panels that are exactly the same. Put side by side it makes that worse.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,141 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Yes, they should just have disregarded those 4 floorboards, but at least if they had been mixed randomly on both sides, it would not have looked as obvious as there are some other floorbioards with smaller bits of light.

    Lack of common sense and attention to detail - what explanation have they given you OP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,375 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    The first photo, I thought that was just a "feature" on the boards that should have been mixed through the whole floor a bit better.

    The second photo makes me think that they are flawed boards that should never have made it through quality control.

    That would drive me nuts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭Vestiapx


    Is the fitter from the shop or a seperate person you contacted? The shop should always include the sap boards on the sample if they didn't they need to sort it.

    I like the sap boards in a walnut laminate but the need to be mixed in right and some customers hate them and need to get a different floor. Even in real wood floors walnut can come stained to make it more even or graded to have no sap or mixed like on the image in that laminate and there are peop what like each. I really like your hallway and the double up DOSENT bother me at all. However it's your house so the shop need to rectify the issue as it wasn't displayed correctly on the sample.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I really hate sapwood in walnut. I'm old fashioned and think that the only usable part of a walnut tree is the dark wood. I even used to burn a bit of walnut sapwood as it was discarded by the pub and shop fitters where I used to get scrap wood for burning.

    I'm not sure why the sapwood is being used? Cheaper as you get more out of a tree but I do wonder if some people want it because they can't tell its walnut without seeing some sapwood.

    Even in solid floors I've seen what I think is some awful walnut including complete planks of sapwood.

    Tis to modern for me.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    hardly a flaw . someone designed it like that . someone took the time to draw it that way, 100% intentional



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Just looks like its been down years and worn, is that what it is suppose to look like?, but agreed with op i will be always looking at it

    . Don't suppose a touch of lacquer will help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Do we know if its "drawn"? I thought that but looked carefully and noticed the boards aren't exactly matching.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    if its laminate then its man made so some designed it somehow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Sorry, not with you there? So there is no walnut in that at all?

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭zidac


    The more i look at it the more i think the guy who put down may have done deliberately, its interesting there is 2 and 2 and bits of the lighter shaded wood in the same general area and kinda spaced to fit the floor.

    The idea is this laminate is to mimic natural look and i think if anything i like a bit of contrast. I personally prefer this look than have all plastic look the same color.

    People differ.

    Post edited by zidac on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    im presuming its laminate , op has aminate in the title .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Ouch Chinese Byrne


    Call them to come back and fix it. It looks stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Think that's fine to be honest. It's a lovely floor



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    The fitters are from a shop. They were doing us a favour by squeezing us in early despite a very long waiting list. Plus we also had a bunch of deliveries due and after weighing it all up we just said we will live with it.

    When it was pointed out they seemed confused as if it was an unreasonable observation that would take too long to fix. After that they were conscious not to do it again.

    The finish is "coffee oak" and yes that light part didn't feature on the sample. I don't mind the light part but would have just wanted it scattered more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Ouch Chinese Byrne


    If you are not happy with it then get it fixed. Don’t let them fob you off. It’s not supposed to be laid like that and they know it.

    They need to fix their mistake and forget about favours they didn’t fit it for free.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    It will always bother you, rug or no rug. Others won't even notice

    Stay Free



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    Think it looks well OP, the herringbone pattern is nice in a narrow corridor. Guaranteed you won't even notice it in a few weeks.



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