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Swiss army knife sharpening

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  • 07-08-2022 7:56pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭


    I'm sorry I just couldn't find another category to post in. Mods can move this if they wish. I have a load of swiss army knives and I'm really wanting to get into sharpening stones and strops etc. So I was thinking would a Norton india stone or an arkensas stone be a good start? I hate those regular pull type sharpeners they take too much metal off the blades. Also I need advice on both the stone sharpening grit etc and the strop basically I'm looking for the best advice from you guys that are into this stuff. All advice greatly appreciated and thanks in advance!. Cheers.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭munsterleinster


    One of these, particularly good for the scissors and small blade

    There's some good videos on youtube on how to generate a cardboard template to get the angle just right (very important for the scissors)



  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭cat320


    Many thanks for that! I'm trying to get toward the more pro sharpening methods, victorinox sharpening tools are pretty hit and miss. I'm looking for the sharpening methods that can be as sharp as a razor..



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭munsterleinster




  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭Heavy handed


    A leather strop on a hardboard backing, some tormek PA70 honing paste and that’s pretty much all I use to bring mine back. Yep you can get into using stones but unless you’ve some chips or heavy rolls you don’t need to use a stone. Stropping alone should bring back the edge.



  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭cat320


    I think you are dead right. I bought a worksharp field guided sharpener on amazon after watching all the amazing reviews, what a piece of junk, it wouldn't sharpen nothing. Is there any brand or shop around ireland you would recommend for the stropping pad? I heard the green compound is the best? I'd like to ask you some more about the strop procedure if that's OK?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭jack of all


    I have plenty of India stones etc that I use to sharpen my kitchen knives and woodworking tools but I find them a bit too aggressive for my own Victorinox, Mora and Leatherman blades. I splashed out recently on this


    It's a nice bit of kit, just about big enough for smaller blades. Add to this kit with Autosol metal polish on a scrap of MDF and you're sorted for a strop. I've made my own strops too from a piece of a leather belt, works great with the Autosol also. I rarely take my blades to a stone, regular reworking with a strop is usually fine unless you get a nick in the edge,as already advised. There's not much meat in a Victorinox or other folding blade so it's best to avoid stones when you can.



  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭cat320


    I think your right I didn't do enough homework at all. The vicrorinox are very delicate blades but I love the knives for its tools as much as for a blade. I don't really want to lose the factory edge really and I'm not rough with my collection either. I was thinking of getting the flexxx strops pad from knivesandtools.ie and the scerper green compound. How often do you need to apply the compound? I've heard when it gets dry to oil it? I couldn't see any point in it. I'm totally new to sharpening and stropping and the like I didn't know what a strop was a month ago.. I appreciate all the advice thanks 👍🏻



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭jack of all


    I have 3 different strop compounds, they are pretty inexpensive and would probably last several lifetimes! I do use a bit of 3 in 1 oil on the strop in co junction with the compound, but the Autosol is perfectly good too. Plenty of good instructionals on youtube etc and no need to spend a fortune either, there's an industry in peddling sharpening gear! Some of my favourite s sharpening gear was picked up secondhand for very little, including a very fine Belgian coticule stone and an old Norton Pike oilstone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭cat320


    So I'm guessing the stropping will remove the least amount of steel at all? Do you like those arkensas stones are the fine or aggressive? How do you find the swiss army on it? You say you hardly use stones at all.. and can you over strop?? I'm a bit of a perfectionist!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭jack of all


    The arkansas stones come in hard and soft, hard is slower to break down and will leave a fine edge. Stropping gives the edge a polish removing the fine scratches from your best stone. It would be hard to over strop although if you can potentially round over the edge. Best to try stropping and see if this will restore the edge before breaking out the stones. I like the Victorinox knives, find the edge lasts well if not abused, I keep a Camper in the drawer at work, an Alox in the car and another one at home, a toolkit in a penknife, I'm a fan!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭cat320


    I'll try that. As I say I'm totally new to sharpening. I've got a victorinox tinker small, a spartan, a fieldmaster, an explorer, a super tinker, a fisherman, a camper and a swiss champ.



  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭cat320




  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭JP22


    To the best of my knowledge, the “strop” or leather is for final use “finishing” to rid the blade of any miniscule burrs.

    I would recommend a good whetstone and oil.




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭jack of all


    Be careful or you'll end up like me ; )

    Before you know it you'll be buying Japanese waterstones, dry grinders with white wheels, a Tormek and a the jigs!



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,615 ✭✭✭Feisar


    A Lansky or other guided rod system would be a fairly fool proof method. There are other systems, some huge money and at the other end of the scale there are the knock offs. A Lansky will be about €50, which might seem like a lot but yer getting five different stones of various abrasion so cheap when you look at a couple of waterstones.

    I wouldn't get too hung up on it either way, at the end of the day it's a Victorinox pen knife, the steel is relatively soft and it's a thin blade. I'm not knocking them I love them but the blade is one function on a multi tool it's not a pure knife.

    Look up coffee cup sharpening and mouse pad sharpening. You might not need to spend anything or very little. The mouse pad with high grit sandpaper is usually for convex blades like Bark River or Fallkniven for example but I see no harm in a micro convex on a SAK.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭Mississippi.


    Slightly off topic but would any of ye have a link to where you would buy a bit of leather from



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,615 ✭✭✭Feisar


    NSFW but:


    Joking aside, look up some of the Irish knife/sheath makers or an equestrian place. If it's for a strop yer probably better off just getting one.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭jack of all


    Pick up a leather belt in a charity shop, you could get 2 or 3 strops out of one. For small sheaths etc I've used scraps salvaged from old handbags and ladies boots. No need to buy new leather for small projects.



  • Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭Mississippi.


    Thanks but I've been through two local charity shops a few times and seen nothing leathery that would do me



  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭Heavy handed


    Knife and tool is a good place to pick up strops and compounds. You’ll get too hung up on the amount of gear on that site. I’ve a whole selection of gear that I sharpen with. I’ve a tormek that I sharpen my woodworking gear on. I use the leather stropping wheel on that for all my stropping now with some of tormeks PA70 honing paste. I’ve had lanskys and now I’ve a TSPROF.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Bosco105


    Hi there, I can make you a strop, as said above TSprof will sharpen any knife, but around 550 euros, look at the Lansky with diamond stones. I'm a knife maker in Ireland. The Carpenter Shop has lot's of compounds.

    Knife & tools will take a while.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Zxthinger


    Lansky system is sound

    You hold the geometry with a gig.



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