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Do you support the views put forward by Sabina Higgins that Ukraine and Russia must negotiate

  • 30-07-2022 7:54pm
    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Do you support the views put forward by Sabina Higgins that Ukraine and Russia must negotiate 172 votes

    I support her view
    34% 59 votes
    I do not support her view
    65% 113 votes



  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭pjcb

    will negotiate

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl

    I think the problem is where they live tbh. Kinda changes your thinking someway not for the better either. I wager she would not be suggesting Castro should have negotiated with the USA. 🤔 The seem to like the old communists like.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL

    I agree with her 100% and am disappointed it was taken down. Preventing bloodshed is paramount.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,036 ✭✭✭✭Strumms

    No, it’s an accurate summary of content and intent.

    responding ? She is still communicating on state headed paper. A protracted violent and aggressive invasion of this magnitude and scale isn’t going to be solved or influenced by Sabina writing that letter… it’s simply an exercise on behalf of an individual with too much time on their hands and fancied by proxy of who they married to… believing they have some sort of influence or mandate to get active and influential on behalf of Ireland and its citizens on the world political sphere. Awful judgement, egotistical arrogance of the highest degree…

    we have an elected government, Taoiseach, department of foreign affairs, diplomats etc…all the letter does is seek to undermine them.

    what we don’t require is the presidents wife, off her own bat, going rogue, choosing to represent this country by espousing through official communication, how a dangerous, deadly and devastating situation should be solved.

    In addition… Her experience and expertise is not in international affairs…she is / was an actress and I think worked in the civil service for a while…

    now she’s just acting the maggot and should be instructed to cease and desist.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,831 ✭✭✭✭markodaly

    There are plenty of people who will rub their hands with glee at the prospect of a protracted stalemate. costing many lives needlessly but it is entirely reasonable to seek a peaceful outcome.

    Who are these people and can you point them out to us with actual quotes stating that is what they want.... or are you making **** up again?

  • Registered Users Posts: 63,505 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady

    Correction, it is you accurately describing your interpretation or spin of what she said.

    I.E. it's your opinion, I gave mine.

    She was responding to an editorial that spoke of 'the war escalating to a standstill' and bemoaned the fact that a ceasefire and negotiations was not given encouragement

  • Registered Users Posts: 63,505 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady

    You ignored/handwaved away a direct quote on the other thread. Not wasting my time again.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,831 ✭✭✭✭markodaly

    What thread was this?

    Link it, please.

    Otherwise you are making stuff up again and running away from your own words, which wouldn't be the first time.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,831 ✭✭✭✭markodaly

    Did you say she was 'Bang on', yet also disagreed with her?

    Usually, people don't agree and disagree with someone at the very same time. Its awfully confusing :) ;)

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2

    No it's not. Trails of Russian blood from retreating troops on the way back to the border is what's paramount.

    Edgelords are now converting themselves into peaceniks as they see Russian positions getting f*cked-up and Ukrainians on the ascendency.

    We see you.

  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3

    That's tantamount to giving the bully your lunch in case he hits you

  • Registered Users Posts: 63,505 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady

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  • Registered Users Posts: 63,505 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady

    Except the IT piece she was responding to wasn't saying that. It was talking about the war coming to a standstill/ which case she implored a ceasefire and negotiations.

    Don't let the truth get in the way whatever you do. 🙄

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2

    And I was responding to a poster who said preventing bloodshed is paramount, not the content of Sabina Higgins' missive. Do keep up.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,831 ✭✭✭✭markodaly

    I did and that is what you said.

    She was "Bang on" in he views.

    Odd for an Irish Republican to be so soft and appease an Imperial power.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭indioblack

    Either there will be outright defeat for one side or some kind of negotiated settlement, probably the latter.

    It's not a question of "must negotiate" but under what circumstances could they negotiate.

    It's unlikely there would be a desire at this time to negotiate realistically.

    Does anybody think that the Russians would negotiate in good faith?

  • Registered Users Posts: 63,505 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady

    Wrong...I said she was 'bang on' about one of the things she said.

    Must you Mark? Such a waste of everyone's time.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,831 ✭✭✭✭markodaly

    So you agreed with her.

    Grand, glad that is sorted.

  • Registered Users Posts: 63,505 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady

    On one of the things she said = yes.

    Why are you wasting more time trying to get a pathetic win?

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,831 ✭✭✭✭markodaly

    Just trying to establish your POV as you seem to change it on a daily/hourly basis.

    Anyway, it seems the polls disagree with her letter. In a minority again Francie.

  • Registered Users Posts: 63,505 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady

    No YOU CHANGED it Mark to me agreeing with the entire letter. That is on YOU.

    Laughable posting...what did it achieve for you only to make you look like a cheap reactionary bluffer?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,831 ✭✭✭✭markodaly

    You agreed with her Francie. You said she was 'Bang on' in her views. Note views as in plural

    It's okay to agree with her, its a free country (unlike poor Ukraine at the moment) but expect to be taken to task over it.