Bring back the death penalty

downtheroad

Young woman gang raped in a car by three teenagers tells court of ‘cruel’ fight for justice.

Rooney (24 years old) has 225 previous convictions including violent disorder, drugs, public order offences, trespass, theft and road traffic matters.

At the age of 18 he partook in the gang rape of this poor young woman. He now has 225 previous convictions, never mind all the crimes he hasn't been caught for or convicted of. What a waste of oxygen. And tragically he is now a father, what kind d of child is he going to bring up.

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2022/07/29/young-woman-driven-to-beach-and-gang-raped-in-a-car-by-three-teenagers-tells-court-of-cruel-fight-for-justice/

WealthyB

The death penalty isn't prortionate in cases like this. For convicted murderers I'd agree yes, but for someone on 225 convictions they simply shouldn't see the light of day again; they're already beyond rehabilitation.

Create a super prison to US standards, put the scum there for life. Let them eat fish heads and gruel for the rest of their miserable lives, let them batter and bugger the fcuk out of each other behind 20 foot walls. I don't care.

There's a social contract. Anyone who amasses 25+ convictions IMO doesn't deserve another chance. Society is better off without them.

DaCor

The death penalty, for those times when you don't want miscarriages of justice to ever be able to speak after its highlighted.

Because you KNOW it would happen

elperello

Not going to happen unless we leave the EU.

https://www.coe.int/en/web/portal/death-penalty

Potential-Monke

Days of teh death penalty are gone, but it's not too late for a life sentence to mean life!

Jinglejangle69

The three scumbags are all fathers now.

Probably unemployed and will be living in a council house soon funded by us law abiding tax payers.

Country is fucked.

drserious4

Read about Harry Gleeson. Innocent man murdered by the state.

When Ireland used the death penalty (last time was 1954) it tended to be the poorer murderers who were hanged. Those with a bit of money or friends in high places got a last-minute reprieve. Surprise surprise.

The death penalty is enticing at times when you hear of particularly abhorrent crimes. Unfortunately, the justice system and the government often mess things up.

We can't trust them with the death penalty

Atlantic Dawn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119405511#Comment_119405511

Or even better they get given a free house in a private built estate where everyone is working their bollix off to pay for except them.

Jarhead_Tendler

How does one manage to clock up 225 convictions before there 25th birthday?Wow

Jinglejangle69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119405522#Comment_119405522

The vulnerable and disadvantaged.

Multipass

Bit of a jump straight to the death penalty, how about life without possibility of parole. We need some version of 3 strikes and you’re out. Irish version - 100 strikes and you’re out, that would be better than the present farce. 24 years old, he has another 50 years of crime ahead of him, unless we get lucky and another criminal eliminates him.

3 the square

Why don't we rent a prison over in ruwanda and send over all the people with 100s of convictions seems to have worked well so far for our neighbours with ruwanda and the boat people crossing the Channel

joseywhales

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119405572#Comment_119405572

Well one group are criminals and the other aren't. Don't think Rwanda would love thousands of criminals coming over.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119405533#Comment_119405533

Bit of a jump straight to the death penalty, how about life without possibility of parole.

Spend. Spend. Spend.

Imagine the cost involved in providing for someone on a life sentence without possibility of parole. The death penalty is a quick answer to that. I think western nations are starting to realise that their economic success is not guaranteed, and that near constant additions of expenditure puts real strain on economies.. at least, once they realise the magic money tree isn't real.

"The study concluded it cost the state an average of $45,000 each year to incarcerate a prisoner serving a sentence of life without parole."

The death penalty would resolve many of our long-term problems with regards to criminality. However, it's not going to happen. There's too much resistance to the idea, which is a shame, because the alternatives are incredibly unreliable (along with the costs).

downtheroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119405572#Comment_119405572

Building the most basic of prisons on one of our many uninhabited islands off the coast would do fine. Do it Trump style, a huge permiter wall, drop the convicts in 1 by 1 with basic rations and leave them fend for themselves.

Alternatively vigilante justice from the family of this poor girl would be a decent form of justice.

However some defence lawyer paid by the state will talk about this man's tough upbringing, drugs in the family, he's now a father and is committing to attending an educational course, so he deserves a 227th chance, while the poor girl who got gang raped by 5 men sees no justice. She should sue the state and every single judge who failed to previously failed to take this feral individual off the streets and put him in a deep dark hole where he should never see the light of day again.

olestoepoke

This was a heinous crime but probably does not warrant the death penalty. I'd be in favour of the death penalty for pre meditated murder. For example, attacking a young woman when she's jogging along a canal and beating, strangling her to death in the middle of the day. This type of person definitely deserves to go for the long sleep.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119406600#Comment_119406600

Imagine the cost involved in providing for someone on a life sentence without possibility of parole. The death penalty is a quick answer to that

No it isn't. It's extremely expensive to get to the actual execution part.

The death penalty would resolve many of our long-term problems with regards to criminality

Lol. No it wouldn't.

downtheroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119406685#Comment_119406685

Obviously the death penalty won't ever be brought back, but I don't see how you couldn't apply it to the gang rape of a vulnerable young woman who was then left abandoned on a beach by the multi convicted perpetrators, and she now has to live with the memories for the rest of her life.

893bet

Should have been strung up a long time ago. Will never contribute positively to society.

Shoog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119406600#Comment_119406600

To many people are dead due to miscarriages of justice and the death penalty. This is an insurmountable problem which will prevent the return of the death penalty.

There is also the appalling situation in America where a person can easily spend a life sentence in prison before been executed. And you know it would be the same here where it typically takes 3years to bring a murder case to trial.

Capone79

I’m all for it yes. Anyone that commits cold blooded murder needs to go. That filthy tramp that cut off peoples heads in Sligo should have been shot in the head or hung outside court.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119406836#Comment_119406836

A public execution no less , worthy of Isis.

I'd like to think we,re progressing somewhat rather then going backwards.

wangchung

I always believe in an eye for eye., especially if anything happened to my family. Too many bleeding hearts in this country, especially Helen McEntee and the Govt. We need to tackle crime head on and make those responsible pay for it.

magicbastarder

The death penalty would resolve many of our long-term problems with regards to criminality.

yes, look at america as a shining example of that.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058256699/bring-back-the-death-penalty

no, the death penalty wont solve these issues, it just gives advocators a hard-on in thinking so.....

Multipass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119406600#Comment_119406600

I’m not against the death penalty in principle, but it actually is a lot more expensive than life in prison.

RobbieTheRobber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119407136#Comment_119407136

Spot on the death penalty does not work as a deterrent.

People who do not murder do not do so because of the death penalty.

The only thing the death penalty does is to end the life of a convicted person. Not all such state executed people would ultimately be guilty of their crimes.

So some innocents pay so people can have their vengeance that is all the death penalty really achieves.

It will not bring back the dead or will not take away the pain of loss. It will not make society safer.

downtheroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119407625#Comment_119407625

It would stop Anto and the lads being released back on to the streets after having some of their sentence suspended, and more cut short for good behaviour.

If there genuinely was proper appropriate sentencing in this country I would bet everyone would be happy with that scenario.

RobbieTheRobber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119407707#Comment_119407707

https://youtu.be/FRpq7o1mKXY

That is incorrect.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119405525#Comment_119405525

I think with an individual like that you have to lock up at some point for a good number of years. Let the law / punishment.. deter. Quite obviously it or these gobshîte judges arnt doing that.

im no for the death penalty but appropriate sentences yes

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119407735#Comment_119407735

...or maybe we re just not dealing with them appropriately, and giving them the necessary supports....