Lunatics going after weather forecasters now

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119409436#Comment_119409436

Yes March was even nicer. I think the 2 good weeks we had in March was our Summer.

Former Former Former

It's raining today therefore global warming is a load of bollocks.

It's gas how this thread started out making fun of idiot climate change deniers but is now swarming with them.

We're all fncked.

TheRiverman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119409496#Comment_119409496

I'm 67 years old and 1975 and 1976 are still the two longest hot Summers I remember. 1995 was also a long hot one. 1985 and 1986 were the two worst.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119405498#Comment_119405498

I lived and worked with an American on a project back in the day, the lad twigged my ability to "smell" rain coming and used to ask me in the mornings what he should wear heading out the door.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119409579#Comment_119409579

Lol

At the start of the thread we were told that such beastly phrases like "Get a grip" constituted a "torrent of abuse".

Then the thread itself becomes genuinely abusive towards those hateful 'climate deniers' calling them "idiots" and "Its impossible to argue with stupidity". Couldn't make it up.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119409619#Comment_119409619

Tbh I don't think some of these lads even notice that they're being extremely abusive. Or it "doesn't count" or its a good thing. In the same breath they will complain about a "torrent of abuse" which proves that x or y person is "hateful".

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119405504#Comment_119405504

Well thats nonsense cause Ireland rarely had days in the 30s

Quantum Erasure

Kentucky floods? Climate change

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119409668#Comment_119409668

Where Did I say Ireland ?

Quantum Erasure

Monkey pox? You better believe that's a climate changing....

https://www.newstalk.com/news/climate-change-to-blame-for-monkeypox-outbreak-says-professor-1348966

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119409579#Comment_119409579

not quite. Its been dull and gloomy for most of the week and will be in the week to come too. Plenty more rain to come, its not just one day. This has been a disappointing summer overall. I am not a climate change denier, its something I am worried about.... but I am just saying we have not had a good Summer this year. I remember some record breaking ones in the the 1970's, some awful ones in the 1980's.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119407592#Comment_119407592

Science may be in agreement about climate change, but the problem is there is no real agreement to deal with it and a lot of people in Ireland are seriously pissed off at the expensive changes they are being asked/coerced into having to make knowing that the major GHG emitters are doing little or nothing about other than like China taking advantage building coal generating power plants to provide this green tech that we are paying for in the name of climate change. We have covered the country with wind turbines and had the 4th highest electricity bills in the E.U. last year. and now because they are nowhere near delivering a dependable energy source more will have to be built off-shore and far from any guarantee that they will be any better or that they will lower bills.

Some of what ha gone on here is pure farce. Turf burning made the Irish Green Party look like nothing more than ideological nutcases and if you were a farmer you would have to question the sanity of a group that want to cull 2 million of their cattle while Brazil alone are raising the number of their herds by 24 million. People are being told that climate change is a global issue, but the government here, and especially the Greens, seem to believe that it is up to an island with 5 million people to sort it on our own.

dePeatrick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119409436#Comment_119409436

I agree, remember spending summers in sandals shorts and T-shirt, now grey days one after another, I know the climate is changing but we are supposed to be moving into a warming period, not much sign if it but I am an optimist maybe the clouds will roll back and we can have an Indian summer yet.

Most people don't have a weirdo memory like me who can remember individual years/summers from the age of six or seven. I inherited it from my dad.

Therefore they'll, understandably, only remember the good bits when they look back on their childhood summers, and feel like there were these endless long hot summers. I've heard/read people of all ages having such recollections. One such person who stands out for me was born in 1991 and remembers only sunny summers when she was a kid - but the summers of the '90s were mostly sh1t! 1995 was the only summer that decade which had a long stretch of very sunny, warm weather. The rest of the summers of that decade were the usual - mostly dull and mild, occasional bits and pieces of hot sun, and plenty of "soft" drizzle or humidity-causing downpours.

Long hot summers aren't a regular thing in Ireland - and when there occasionally is one, it makes the news, like '76.

1989 made the news. I believe '83 and '84 were very good too, but I remember '85 to '88 and it was just a whole load of meh - sometimes downright awful.

2003 and 2006 were the only hot summers of the '00s (and, unusually for me, I don't remember '03 being very warm for long, but apparently it was). 2008 was appalling.

The 2010s were like the '80s - 2013, '14 and '18 had long stints of hot weather. But 2011 and '12 were the worst summers I've ever known. Shockingly bad. Even cold (usually, even if there's a lot of rain it's still mild or humid).

I'm not a climate change denier at all but I really think the media was ridiculous over the handful of hot days here the week before last. Two or three very warm (for Ireland) days, but otherwise a mediocre summer, is the absolute standard for Ireland. I think there needs to be more context/perspective in their reporting.

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119410298#Comment_119410298

Its the WORLD as a whole that is moving into a warming period, not specifically Ireland.

Look at the extremes of summer temps in mainland Europe. These places are getting hotter.

But it has already been said often that ireland will get milder, wetter weather as a result of climate change. Due to our location in the Atlantic.

Climate change doesn't always equate to a place getting hotter.

charlie14

When you go for overkill you very quickly lose those who initially were sympathetic to your message. Even to the extent that they will turn against that message. When you start throwing in terms such as denier then you have gone beyond the tipping point of them wishing to listen to anything you have to say on the subject. You have only to look at the opinion polls to see that. The Green Party in G.E 2020 received 7.1% of the first preference vote. They are now polling within the margin of error at 3%. Even Labour, effectively a dead party walking, are polling higher.

When the overkill rhetoric then turns into a policy timeline of measures, many of them coercive where people will be forced into spending eye watering sum which many cannot afford, and legislation that they can see as being economically damaging to the country without one iota of change to global emissions then it`s not difficult to see why many look on it as losing the plot completely.

I don`t believe that there are many in Ireland that can be called genuine climate change deniers, but attempt by some to throw everyone that questions Ireland`s policy as such is nothing but counterproductive. People are not stupid. They see what is going on in the world where the top culprits on emissions are doing little or nothing to change. Some even taking advantage to provide all this green tech that we are told is the answer which they are increasing emissions to produce, while we, a nation of 5 million look as if we are supposed to apparently sort a global problem by flagellating ourselves.

Throw in an energy policy that is based on keeping our fingers crossed on energy security, an energy generating system that despite a fortune already being invested in it has shown not to be fit for purpose being designed on the principle of hope rather than reality, with an even large fortune being thrown at more of the same based on nothing but the same hope over reality, and it`s not difficult to see why many are disillusioned.