Sky Glass launching in Ireland on August 25th

icdg

Was mentioned in the BBC thread over in Broadcasting but worth its own discussion here.

https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/article/sky-glass-to-launch-in-ireland-this-august

Not cheap at €755 for the 43”, €999 for the 55” and €1,299 for the €65”

no Sky Stream pricing for Ireland yet other than multiroom will be €19pm

Same recording limitations but there’ll be some sort of access to a version of BBC iPlayer to make up.

lertsnim

Can't see this selling well at those prices.

muffler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394183#Comment_119394183

You might be surprised. The novelty of it alone will spark a bit of interest I'd imagine.

The 43" TV for example is competitively priced in comparison to the same set in the UK which is £649 or about E775 at current exchange rates

Gusser09

That's some money to be fair. With the amount of cheap alternatives out on the market I think Sky are codding themselves. Really they need a fair priced pure streaming alternative and NOW TV isn't it.

I see they are doing a monthly payment plan. They are hardly giving the 65inch at €26 per month ? That's a 4 year contract?

SteM

I guess either uptake has been so good in the UK that they've decided to roll it out here or uptake has been so bad there they've decided to offload stock here.

DJIMI TRARORE

Another rip off pile of over hyped sh1te,that all the cool people can talk about to each other about

NIMAN

The impending recession, should it happen, might make folk think about TV subscriptions and what they can cut back on.

Lot of outlay to watch TV content these days.

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394602#Comment_119394602

That's all available anyway. It's the over pricing that is driving people to illegitimate providers. You can buy a decent tv for a lot less than that.

icdg

I think there’s two main turn offs for me and that’s the lack of recording and the lack of manual tuning. I know there’s a lot out there who say lack of recording isn’t the be all or end all but it’s an essential in my household and having 30 day catch up isn’t sufficient for me. No manual tuning meanwhile means no ITV and while that’s not the loss it once was with VMTV covering most of their shows there’s still things every so often like the Charity Shield on Saturday that it’s handy to have for.

The price is a big disadvantage although it might be worth for some particularly with young families eliminating a lot of wiring by getting rid of the STB, satellite connection and potentially sound bar.

muffler

I'm sure Sky have their homework done long before the launch.

icdg

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394570#Comment_119394570

An awful lot of work just to “offload stock”. Solving the BBC recording problem has been a biggy. They’ve finally managed to persuade the BBC to let Irish viewers have at least some access to the iPlayer which can’t have been easy.

Delta2113

BBC playlist/watchlist or whatever it will be called are deleted after 30 days is what I'm hearing.

icdg

I think it will be the same for RTE. On one hand it’s an improvement on the seven day catch-up at present but on the other hand you are losing recording.

Sierra Oscar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394595#Comment_119394595

I don't know, I've an interest in it on the basis that I live in an apartment complex where Sky isn't available due me being unable to have an individual satellite dish and the management company refusing to permit a shared dish to be installed for the development. I'm also moving to a new build where we are forbidden to erect satellite dishes as per the planning permission, which seems to be an increasingly common restriction being imposed in developments.

So I reckon there would be a sizeable target market there for them to begin with.

All the same I don't like the idea of essentially renting a TV. I just wish Sky would be made available over fibre broadband without any restrictions and need to buy a TV with it.

lenovo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394751#Comment_119394751

The same could be said about any product launch by a big company.

They are trying to change behavior. Get people into the idea of a tv being part of their monthly plan. Perhaps updating more regularly like phones.

I think people will get over the non recording. Things have moved on from that. It's all about on demand.

They are going after the iphone demographic imo.

icdg

To be fair renting a tv used to be common. I’m old enough to remember RTV Rentals! And this is more like hire purchase than renting anyway.

Delta2113

"I think people will get over the non recording. Things have moved on from that. It's all about on demand."

But every show is never available on demand. You can't beat having your own recording facility.

callaway92

I can see it now 3 years down the line:

’Sky innovation where you can now record on your Sky Glass device, breaking technology boundaries’

Like video games that remove features and bring them back in years later acting as if they’re innovative

decor58

It will also tie folks into a 3/4 year contract, no hopping from one service supplier to another year after year. When out of contract how will the tv work with other providers.

timothydec77

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395755#Comment_119395755

It has a Saorview tunnel and Hdmi.

I will stick to my Saorview and Free to Air dish.

lenovo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119395226#Comment_119395226

Would be interesting to see stats on recordings.

I feel like the majority are or else they are things people want to watch live.

I also imagine from a rights perspective they want to move away from recordings which you own regardless of subscription.

Spotify doesn't let you record.

icdg

At least in the U.K. version, the DTT tuner is there but only works if the internet is disconnected - Sky says it’s for backup only and not meant to be used day to day. There’s no satellite tuner.

callaway92

Ya I wonder with recordings is it a case of advertising rates having gone wayyyyy down because of the amount of people using it and advertisers moving away from it due to that

lertsnim

I wonder if sport will be blocked on the BBC like it is currently on both BBC 1 and 2 on Sky Go.

Loughc

Some pricing for the TVs. Apologies for the tiktok screen I haven’t seen Irish pricing for it anywhere else so far.

Capt'n Midnight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119394518#Comment_119394518

Now TV is something like €20 up front and half nothing a month if you coupon like crazy, if you are lazy just cancel and wait for the new deal email https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058086783/now-tv-latest-deal-codes#latest ,

Depending on what you watch it's a nice add on to FreeSat

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119397078#Comment_119397078

So I assume you are getting a sky sub with that those packages also. Seems like a good if so.

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119420648#Comment_119420648

Ah yeh I know. I have availed of those deals before. I have an alternative provider now though.

icdg

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119422545#Comment_119422545

No, at least in the U.K., the repayments on the TV are on top of the Sky Stream package price. Furthermore it seems Sky don’t do discounts for Glass customers, because well why would you when you’re effectively tied into a multi year contract.

icdg

So this might also be of interest, the Sky Glass channel list:

https://www.sky.com/help/articles/tv-channel-list-sky-glass-roi

note that there’s effectively a separate EPG for Ireland here, at least in the entertainment category, whereas on satellite U.K. and Ireland tend to share channel numbers other than the national PSBs. Much greater prominence for the BBC channels than on the satellite EPG.

Cork2021

I signed up a few days ago, arriving on the 23rd, it’s after working cheaper for me. €23 cheaper and that includes all the sports channels, I removed kids and cinema but will be getting Netflix for free as part of the package, all in all my package with sky broadband, the puck for the 2nd tv and the €15 a month for 43” will be €140 a month for 12 months and they’ve given me €200 credit as I was one of the first 100 customers.