Issue with a neighbors tree & ESB

cap.in.hand.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385496#Comment_119385496

It's usually a whole trunk of the tree falling that results in fallen electricity wires .. they'd be strong spring back in electricity wires with the way it's coiled

macvin

Usually when someone catastrophises a situation, ears close. the reason is nearly all these "catastrophe syndrome" types know absolutely eff all about the subject as can be seen here.

ESB networks have a world renowned safety record and a large portion of their business is advising other networks and supplying experts to do electrical work in countries all over the world.

But then the op probably knows better because someone on tik tok or facebook said......

John_Rambo

Joke.

Be a responsible sibling and assure your sister the experts know best.

fliball123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385679#Comment_119385679

How can you catastrophises a potential health and safety issue (does the ESB have expertise in dealing with kids with autism if they have can you show me some literature on it please seeing as you are the expert). She was getting the tree cut and was advised by an expert and then an ESB expert came out and agreed the tree was dead, he could see the branches on the ground and the big branch that was on the wire which had fallen he gave his report and the area manager is coming out and is having a look to see what is the best way to approach it. I think she has approached it the right way.

ZX7R

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119388219#Comment_119388219

My son has the most severe autism on the spectrum including other neurological disorders he ten now.

You nephew is 4 years old.

Any child of that age could run to an electrical wire if damaged autistic or not.

Going by the age of the child your sister and you the whole family are going true acceptance of the child's disability, this is also a time of risk adverse.

You will see any danger and multiply by ten, I know I did it.

You will ruin your lives doing this.

In general, Their is no legal obligation for any company to take into account if the child or person is special needs individually. As there health and safety Is for the border public than individual person.

Your sister and neighbour can submit a case to the esb for removal of the tree due to the circumstances In relation to your nephew.

Best of luck with everything.

ELM327

As an autistic adult, the responsibility of caring for the child would lie with their guardian and not ESB.

We recently had ESBn out due to a branch falling on a wire and causing very low voltage (67v). The 1 meter threshold was explained and they cut back the trees. You have no entitlement to cut , or to demand they are cut, the neighbor's trees.

fliball123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119388552#Comment_119388552

Well we will have to disagree if there is a health and safety risk and it comes in the form of their equipment being the dangerous element.

ZX7R

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119388560#Comment_119388560

But the esb have all ready came seen the tree and told the party's involved how they will remedy the problem.

fliball123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119388606#Comment_119388606

They have told me how they will clear 1 metre through but the health and safety risk of a branch above falling on the line again has not been resolved yet.

ZX7R

As I said in a previous post they cut a large v shape from the top of the tree down to the cable the a area of on meter around the cable .

No over hanging branches will be left to fall on the cable.

I've attached an image to give you an idea.

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fliball123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119388657#Comment_119388657

If they do this the tree will become unstable as it is dead and could well result in the tree falling which could be even worse than the cable coming down as the houses on either side are right under some of the branches. Look I ain't an expert I will see what the area manager has to say about it

a_squirrelman

This thread is bizarre to me, I think the responsibility lies with the parent to make sure their child doesn't approach a hazard, be it a pond, a road or an electrical wire.

On top of that spotting potential risks two or three steps ahead is unrealistic. I COULD be hit by a car tomorrow. Bad weather COULD lead to a branch falling on the wire which COULD lead to the wire breaking and then if by some miracle the child's parent doesn't notice this the child COULD approach the wire.

The reality is we usually notice when electrical wires are not over our heads anymore and are on the ground.

fliball123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119388927#Comment_119388927

You need to look back at the specifics on this.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119389138#Comment_119389138

Yourself and your sister need to get a grip on things. In Ireland, there have been 40 electrocutions or deaths from the explosive/burning effects of electricity from 2001 to the end of 2020. Of those, 25 deaths have been associated with a work activity. The remaining 15 have occurred in domestic situations or as a result of trespass, vandalism or in one case a fallen overhead power line.

Pistachio19

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119388669#Comment_119388669

But haven't you said that the neighbour is willing to get it cut? So if the ESB cut their bit back can't the neighbour then get the tree surgeon back to finish the job? It will be a case of maintaining it from then on, as it should have been done over the years, before it got to this dangerous stage. Or the neighbour can choose to cut the whole tree down.

Deub

The case seems simple enough: both owners agreed to cut the tree. The tree surgeon doesn’t to touch it because of the esb line and esb doesn’t see the need to cut it but only a 1m clearance.

2 solutions left:

Find another tree surgeon that would agree to cut it or let ESB doing the 1m clearance.