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Lisa Smith sentenced to 15 months

  • 22-07-2022 11:01am
    Registered Users Posts: 11,878 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard

    So she got 15months for her membership of the Islamic State death cult.

    I doubt she will serve the full 15 but none of the sentence has been suspended and she is low risk if reoffending according to the judge.

    Personally I would have thought 3+ years would have been more appropriate. But I'm sure a legal expert like a judge would know better. Then again I'm not sure what benefit a prison would serve someone like her.

    Do feel sorry for her child though.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • Registered Users Posts: 472 ✭✭UrbanFox

    Can the DPP appeal if they consider the sentence unduly lenient.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,303 ✭✭✭1874

    FFS, the vitriol is unsurprising, the reality is most criminals here get away with what they did, actual crimes that affect people living here, what she has done, while stupid and I dont agree or understand what or why she did the things she has done, has not substantially affected people here or this country. Scumbags, ie day to day toe rags cause more problems, politicians have cause more harm to our society, there is no benefit locking her up other than vengeance. The people who should be locked up (which is at great cost to the state, ie us all) are

    1. Repeat offenders who cant or wont be rehabilitated
    2. Those who have committed crimes of a violent or sexual nature

    She wasn't running ISIS, she was taken in by them for foolish beliefs/reasons

  • Registered Users Posts: 31,258 ✭✭✭✭gmisk

    Absolute joke of a sentence

  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock

    Disgraceful sentence. Not really surprising though given the legal system’s penchant for treating criminals as the real “victims” of any crime.

    Nice deterrent, and precedence though, for any would be Jihadi wanting to cause similar chaos though.

    Our Country is in serious trouble.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,303 ✭✭✭1874

  • Registered Users Posts: 33,797 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭monkeybutter

    Seems about right to me, in the context of other sentancing

    Plus she has a child as we all know they don't like putting mothers in the slammer

  • Registered Users Posts: 796 ✭✭✭DarkJager21

    ISIS are enemies of humanity so you'll have to get over yourself if you expect people to have sympathy for them (and more fool you if you do).Every last one of them should be killed, no exceptions.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,303 ✭✭✭1874

    By your logic they would all have committed hari kari, Id say they see themselves as the enemies of the West, but of humanity, they likely think they are defending it from the onslaught of the West. If you don't understand other people, groups, factions and your response is as brutal and violent as theirs, is it any wonder people oppose each other in a tribal way? Or yours are comments for shock or parody, the alternative is you aren't much of a deep thinker.

    I'll have to look it up, what actual Crime was she sentenced with? do you even know yourself?

  • Registered Users, Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123

    Ridiculously short sentence, but no surprise really. How can we be sure she won't be a danger to society when she gets out?

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,133 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore

    The ah shur god love her defence worked I see.

  • Registered Users Posts: 796 ✭✭✭DarkJager21

    Why don't you start by reading up on what ISiS have done since you don't have a **** notion apparently? There's nothing to understand about them other than being pure and utter evil savages - don't even try to sugar coat their aims as something I don't understand when you don't have the first clue.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,500 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber

    The court said the “headline sentence” was two years and six months. In light of Smith’s mitigation and military service, a “substantial discount” of 50 per cent was applied, leading to a final sentence of 15 months.

    The sentence was 2 and a half years (30 months) with 15 months suspended.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,303 ✭✭✭1874

    Are you dense? or just a blatant liar? I never sugar coated what ISIS did or do and its there for all to see in this thread, you actually give their actions more support by idiotically stating we should have the Death penalty for the person in question here OR anyone who foolishly supported their cause. I know they tried to set up a Caliphate and I doubt you have a clue what they were up to other than what you were told. ISIS were supported to more than the tune of €800 which the person in question stupidly did. So at what point have I sugar coated what they did/do when it's yourself suggesting the death penalty. You're knee jerk reaction is laughable, just line up with everything everyone else says or what you're told to do and say, think for yourself, if that is possible.

  • Registered Users Posts: 33,797 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe

    Never said anyone should have sympathy for them. I just find it quite funny that you seem to lack self awareness as to how much your post read like something an ISIS member would say. Talking about humanity in one post and then wishing death on people because they are in a death cult in another.

    Couldn't make it up. 🤣

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  • The Criminal Justice Act 1990 abolished the death penalty completely and set the punishment for treason at life imprisonment, with parole in not less than forty years

    if it wasnt treason then nothing is