2 people claiming ownership

mk7r

Hi just interested in opinions, I am in a weird situation where I bought an item and am now being contacted by someone else claiming they also own this item.

Apparently they were promised it as part of a verbal deal (it wasn't on the contract of their main deal, I checked) and the then owner subsequently sold it to me.

Now a few weeks later after I have invested time and money into repairs and refurbishment they want me to hand it over basically.

What to do? It's not a house btw it's a tech item.

Jim_Hodge

It's between the third party and the seller. Ignore him.

mk7r

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365051#Comment_119365051

But is it legally his? I'm not trying to screw anyone over its just messy

AnRothar

Did the person who sold it to you have the "right" to sell it to you?

Fallout2022

I propose to cut it in half. And you each get a half.*

*The items true owner will give it up sooner than see it destroyed.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365058#Comment_119365058

Sounds as if there is as much proof of it being mine as of it being theirs. If you could leave it out for me somewhere that would be great.

More seriously, you can prove where you bought it, if they have an issue they need to provide the evidence. Until that happens give them nothing.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058255362/2-people-claiming-ownership

Have you been sold stolen good?

If so contact the Gardai

If it’s not stolen and you bought correctly just tell person to move on or you will report them to the Gardai

Job done

Dial Hard

How did they find out you bought it and get your details to contact you???

mk7r

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365147#Comment_119365147

The original owner told them and have them my number.

The original owner has had the item for about 10 years, I wasn't there for their deal and he is claiming he can't remember 🙄

phildub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365157#Comment_119365157

For a contract to be binding it must be in writing and it must he signed by the person it is enforceable against. A verbal agreement is not enforceable by the courts. In any event it would be between the seller and this third party.

It's up to you if you are happy to sell to third party at a cost of your choosing.

Your details never should have been passed on to that third party. They need to take it up with the seller.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365157#Comment_119365157

Then it's between them. Let it good.

Dial Hard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365157#Comment_119365157

Really struggling to understand why he'd do that, tbh. Is there any chance it's an attempted scam? I'd just stop engaging, either way.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365170#Comment_119365170

For a contract to be binding it must be in writing and it must he signed by the person it is enforceable against.

That is not technically correct. Only for certain types of items (e.g. land). Of course, it is easier to prove existence of said contract if it is in writing.

Regardless of that. Based on what the OP said, the item is theirs now.

...Ghost...

I would be livid if a seller passed on my details to another party. Tell the person claiming ownership to get a refund from the seller and you legally purchased the item and intend to keep it. Block number and move on.

seagull

Tell the other bod it's not your problem, and ignore him.

If you wanted, you could probably drop the seller in it for passing on your details.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365157#Comment_119365157

If you are sure the item is not stolen, tell them both if anything continues you will ring the Gardai and block the numbers

Sounds like a bit of a scam.

Victor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365170#Comment_119365170

When you order food in a restaurant, do you have a signed contract?

phildub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119373887#Comment_119373887

When you leave a restaurant without paying are you sued for breach of contract?

I made an error, its been pointed out, you're being a douche now and not contributing constructively to the conversation.

I hope it made you feel like a big man though, even just for a fleeting moment of your dull existence

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119374141#Comment_119374141

Theft rather than breach of contract?

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/son-of-td-aengus-o-snodaigh-accused-of-failing-to-pay-417-bill-at-dublin-restaurant-41852740.html

Victor

Potentially either or both. It wouldn't be a criminal offence if there were other arrangements to pay.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119375757#Comment_119375757

Washing dishes?

mickdw

This is a scam for sure. They see you as a soft touch and are chancing their arm.

Victor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119375788#Comment_119375788

I was thinking payment on account at the end of the month.

Claw Hammer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119373887#Comment_119373887

You certainly have aq contract as you do in an auction even if you haven't signed it.