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Tour de France 2022: Stage 17 (Saint-Gaudens – Peyragudes, 129.7k)

  • 20-07-2022 12:12pm
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    The third time this Tour finishes on an airstrip, the second time the final hectometres are a brutally steep ramp, and the repeated error of designing a short mountain stage where the first 50 kilometres are flat – not one of ASO’s better or more original ideas, but given current circumstances, it might still do the trick.



    Route description

    The stage starts from Saint-Gaudens, one of the Tour’s more frequent stopoffs for the Pyrenean stages – Patrick Konrad won here from the break last year. Located at the foot of the mountains, it developed as a religious community in the Middle Ages before growing to become the largest town in the upper Garonne valley.

    The first 30-odd kilometres of the stage are spent riding along the edge of the Pyrenees, as far as the intermediate sprint in La Barthe-de-Neste. This section passes through Saint-Bertrand-de-Comminges, a sizeable city in Roman times and still so important in the Middle Ages that a (now UNESCO-inscribed) cathedral was built, before being overtaken by other cities in the region (such as Saint-Gaudens) and falling to a village size.

    Immediately after the intermediate sprint, the riders turn south to head up the Neste valley as far as Arreau. This village is situated at the bottom of Col d’Aspin, the first climb of the day.

    The descent to the Lac de Payolle is much shallower. Fortunately, there will be no flamme rouge arch to collapse onto any riders this time around, instead the route doubles back on itself for the next climb, Hourquette d’Anzican from its easier, but more irregular side, corresponding with the final 10.0 kilometres of the profile below.

    The descent takes us back into the Neste valley, which is followed for a brief time into Saint-Lary-Soulan. Here, the riders turn left onto the Col d’Azet. Annoyingly, every profile I can find online is of a different variant, starting further north, so the official profile it is.

    The final 8.8 kilometres of the climb are identical to those of the profile below.

    The descent is much more technical than what we’ve seen earlier today and yesterday, I remember some crashes having happened here in the past. It ends in Loudenvielle, last seen as a stage finish in 2020 (victory for Nans Peters while Tadej Pogacar went berserk from the peloton on Peyresourde). The road starts to climb very quickly again as we reach the MTF. The final 8.0 kilometres of the stage are identical with the section of this profile from the junction to Loudenvielle onwards. The final 2.8 kilometres are the same as the 2017 stage, which saw Romain Bardet win a very conservatively-raced affair as Chris Froome lost the yellow jersey to Fabio Aru.

    Final kilometre of that stage:


    Final kilometres

    Peyragudes is one half of a ski resort spanning both sides of the Peyresourde. Outside of cycling and winter sports, it’s best known for being a shooting location for the Bond movie Tomorrow Never Dies, on this very runway.

    Pyrenean scenery in Arreau with its 19th-century bridge.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭retalivity

    Majka a dns today, meaning Pog only has McNulty, Bjerg & Hirschi left. Think hirschi is a bit better, but he'll be isolated again today unless mcnulty gets up the road early

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00

    EDIT: don't bother reading if you have read retalivity's post above 😂

    Rafa Majka is a DNS today! That means that Pog is only left with McNulty, Bjerg (who is not a climber), and Hirschi (who has been rubbish, but it's not really his fault because he had Covid and was drafted in at the last minute). So basically he only has McNulty as a domestique in the mountains!

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Majka tore his right quad when that happened yesterday. He looked ok at the time though.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,754 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus

    Bookies Odds

    Tadej Pogacar 3

    Jonas Vingegaard 4

    Thibaut Pinot 12

    Thomas Pidcock 12

    Michael Woods 14

    Nairo Quintana 18

    Nick Schultz 18

    Enric Mas 20

    Alexey Lutsenko 25

    Adam Yates 33

    Carlos Verona 33

    Chris Froome 33

    Daniel Felipe Martinez 33

    Patrick Konrad 33

    Romain Bardet 33

    Bob Jungels 40

    Damiano Caruso 40

    Geraint Thomas 40

    Michael Storer 40

    Alberto Bettiol 50

    Bauke Mollema 50

    Giulio Ciccone 50

    Ion Izagirre 50

    Rigoberto Uran 50

    Valentin Madouas 50

    Aleksandr Vlasov 66

    Andreas Kron 66

    Andreas Leknessund 66

    David Gaudu 66

    Dylan Teuns 66

    Louis Meintjes 66

    Luis Leon Sanchez 66

    Rafa Majka 66

    Joe Dombrowski 80

    Pierre Latour 80

    Matteo Jorgenson 100

    Neilson Powless 100

    Sepp Kuss 100

    Wout Van Aert 100

    Brandon Mcnulty 125

    Chris Hamilton 125

    Jonathan Castroviejo 125

    Matej Mohoric 125

    Maximilian Schachmann 125

    Felix Groschartner 150

    Fred Wright 150

    Georg Zimmermann 150

    Gregor Muhlberger 150

    Kevin Geniets 150

    Mattia Cattaneo 150

    Simon Geschke 150

    Franck Bonnamour 200

    Hugo Houle 200

    Pierre Rolland 200

    Quinn Simmons 200

    Andrea Bagioli 250

    Dylan Van Baarle 250

    Jan Tratnik 250

    Philippe Gilbert 299

    Kobe Goossens 300

    Marc Hirschi 300

    Michael Matthews 300

    Tony Gallopin 300

    Andrey Zeits 325

    Sebastian Schonberger 325

    Benjamin Thomas 400

    Gorka Izagirre 400

    Jack Bauer 400

    Martijn Tusveld 400

    Mathieu Burgaudeau 400

    Mikkel Frlich Honore 400

    Nelson Oliveira 400

    Simone Velasco 400

    Tim Wellens 400

    Alexander Kristoff 500

    Andrea Pasqualon 500

    Anthony Perez 500

    Filippo Ganna 500

    Kamil Gradek 500

    Krists Neilands 500

    Nils Politt 500

    Toms Skujins 500

    Adrien Petit 600

    Albert Torres 600

    Alberto Dainese 600

    Alexander Krieger 600

    Amaury Capiot 600

    Amund Grndahl Jansen 600

    Anthony Turgis 600

    Antoine Duchesne 600

    Benoit Cosnefroy 600

    Caleb Ewan 600

    Christophe Laporte 600

    Connor Swift 600

    Cyril Barthe 600

    Cyril Lemoine 600

    Der Hoorn Taco Van 600

    Dmitriy Gruzdev 600

    Dylan Groenewegen 600

    Edward Planckaert 600

    Fabio Jakobsen 600

    Florian Senechal 600

    Florian Vermeersch 600

    Frederik Frison 600

    Gac Olivier Le 600

    Guillaume Van Keirsbulck 600

    Hugo Hofstetter 600

    Jasper Philipsen 600

    Jeremy Lecroq 600

    John Degenkolb 600

    Kristian Sbaragli 600

    Luca Mozzato 600

    Luka Mezgec 600

    Luke Rowe 600

    Maciej Bodnar 600

    Mads Pedersen 600

    Marco Haller 600

    Matis Louvel 600

    Moer Brent Van 600

    Nathan Van Hooydonck 600

    Nils Eekhoff 600

    Omer Goldstein 600

    Owain Doull 600

    Poppel Danny Van 600

    Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg 600

    Silvan Dillier 600

    Stan Dewulf 600

    Stefan Bissegger 600

    Stefan Kung 600

    Sven Erik Bystrm 600

    Tiesj Benoot 600

    ukasz Owsian 600

    Yves Lampaert 600

    Alexis Gougeard 750

    Christopher Juul-Jensen 750

    Fabio Felline 750

    Imanol Erviti 750

    Jonas Rutsch 750

    Edvald Boasson Hagen 800

    Jasper Stuyven 800

    Peter Sagan 800

    Maxime Bouet 1000

    Mikkel Bjerg 1000

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Tim Wellens also a dns today with Covid.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,774 ✭✭✭✭dahat

    Huge pressure now on Ineos to make their numbers count to shake the GC.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w

    Do Ineos have anyone who can genuinely climb better than Jonas and/or Pog...

    On the last mountain day, Thomas & Yates struggled compared to Jonas/Pog...

    The only way I could see that happening is for the sky train to try and set a pace so high that it puts Jonas/Pog into the red, but I can't see it happening...but who knows, this edition has been bonkers with the pace and aggressive style all round

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,754 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus

    How do we expect the top three to go in the 40km TT, any estimated gaps? G is not far behind Pog for instance?

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,054 ✭✭✭✭neris

    is Froome trying to get in the breakaway again? or just another Israel rider with a weird looking riding style

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,054 ✭✭✭✭neris

    Dont think Ineos have anyone who can keep up with Jonas or Pog. I think the way both of them are riding especially with attacks doesnt suit the Ineos style, theyre still trying to ride in the old sky style

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,754 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus

    GC Standings

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭Macy0161

    In fairness, Froome did ok yesterday, so I think he's a decent shout for one of these stages if he can get up the road. Held the GC group a lot further than he was, and finished in a group with Pinot.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w

    Profile seems similar to last year...which Jonas put time on pog, and finished 3rd I believe and I dunno how Thomas did

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,054 ✭✭✭✭neris

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭retalivity

    Pop goes Yates

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭retalivity

    Bjerg is sprinting up this climb!

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,774 ✭✭✭✭dahat

    Wonder what was on the breakfast menu for UAE? Absolute hammer fest from Bjerg

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00

    Trying to watch whilst also on a work call. Where did Kuss disappear to??

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭retalivity

    This is gonna be 1v1 for the last climb, epic!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭retalivity

    Couldnt keep up, pulled out to get a bottle, siting about 30s back with Lutsenko

  • Registered Users Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black

    Pog looking back, 2km to the top, surely he has to attack soon....

  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke

    Vingegaard out of the saddle more than the others. I think he's looking under more pressure than usual today.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    This is great.

    Revenge of the Pog.

    McNulty has burned them all.

    How much risk will Pog take on the descent?

    No, back together - go for the last climb.

  • Registered Users Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black

    Here we go

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,754 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus

    Vingegaard looks solid soo far!

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,774 ✭✭✭✭dahat

    Scenes when UAE don’t even win todays stage.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Interesting the gearing there.

  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke

    McNulty not going fast enough I think. He's basically going the same speed as Thomas - that's not going to put Vingegaard under enough pressure.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,251 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep