South William Street Pedestrianisation - Finally arriving?

tomfoolery60

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/dublin/2022/07/19/dublins-south-william-street-to-be-fully-pedestrianised/

Saw this earlier this morning in the IT. What I can't tell from the article is if there's a concrete plan now or if it's just the case as reported last week that it included as an objective in the new Dublin City Development Plan (2022-2028). Would be amazing to finally get this over the line.

clobber

Car free city centre.

It's on its way

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058255124/south-william-street-pedestrianisation-finally-arriving

It’s just an objective - no firm plan.

John_Rambo

It's a street asking to be pedestrianised. The problem is the two car parks!!

Viscount Aggro

The car park owners should be suing DCC for millions in lost revenue.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119379987#Comment_119379987

No lost revenue in having cars run right not left.

Viscount Aggro

They have done a test run for one week, revenue was down 30%.

Carpark cant be structurally reconfigured.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119383254#Comment_119383254

Did they provide evidence of this decrease?

errlloyd

It is absolutely delusional to think that a carpark doesn't lose revenue if car access becomes more difficult - although to be fair a lot of onstreet parking has been removed recently so multistoreys probably do have to take the good with the bad. And better entertainment / nicer city will increase the time people stay which increases revenue.

There are a few other businesses that can probably claim similarly. For example McQuillans hardware on Capel St being more awkward to get to for tradies versus out of town / suburban options might slowly erode their business.

But they shouldn't be a barrier to progress. We need a mechanism to help them adapt their business. At a low level a pedestrianisation grant to help businesses to adapt, at a high level some sort of CPO infrastructure to buy out businesses that can't adapt. We should aggressively do that.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119384161#Comment_119384161

Agreed, business people need to pivot & adapt. What was once a carpark can be something else with creativity, some money and as you say help. Bit of a shocker to go from a money printing business with very little effort to some work in fairness.

bb1234567

Why can't the car parks be CPO'd?