So, What IS a Woman?

Dyr

I think that a woman is an adult human female, its fair to say that that 99 per cent of the world share that view but apparently on boards such a milquetoast statement is trolling and worthy of a warning

So that begs the question fellow posters, what IS a woman?

Atlantic Dawn

The leaders of each political party in the country need to answer this before the next election.

thefallingman

the female of the species, you are born either a man or a woman. That’s my view, but people can call themselves or identify whatever they want.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058254926/so-what-is-a-woman

XX; everything else is politics.

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgfQksZR0xk&ab_channel=NBCNews

A person with a "capacity for pregnancy" OP?

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350826#Comment_119350826

How can you identify as something that you can't even define?

anewme

What is the drama and obsession with this topic?

thefallingman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350842#Comment_119350842

I wouldn’t but I live and let live I have enough worries of my own to worry about such things, life is short. But natural female sports should be for females only and same for toilets and changing rooms ect

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058254926/so-what-is-a-woman

it's ok to be white

Woman/female is rooted in biology, XX chromosome. We are a sex-based class.

Someone born male who has undergone the hormone treatment and surgery is a transwoman, and personally I don't care about such folk using women's toilets and changing rooms, and calling them women (just for convenience, instead of transwomen). The current debacle must be horrendous for them, but the problem is some men just deciding they are women and people being compelled to agree that they are. They are a million miles away from the transwomen I described first, who have undergone a long, difficult, costly journey.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058254926/so-what-is-a-woman

So...

What IS an adult?

What IS a female?

Asking for a small number of friends.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350848#Comment_119350848

I don't know, it was fairly undramatic to say that a woman was an adult human female up until about 5 years ago, now world leaders and US supreme court judges are afraid to tell you what a woman is. Its all very odd. They've been telling us for decades that women face terrible discrimination but now they don't even know what a woman is

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350818#Comment_119350818

this question could define who the next leader of Fianna Fail is, it could bring down the government...

https://highlandradio.com/2022/07/17/fianna-fail-backbenchers-threaten-to-not-back-government-in-december-taoiseach-swap/

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350873#Comment_119350873

Ah yes the standard comeback, "i'm going to challenge the definition of commonly used words because otherwise I havent a leg to stand on".

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350873#Comment_119350873

next you'll be asking what sex is...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350826#Comment_119350826

One of several definitions of "female" in the Merriam-Webster dictionary is

"having a gender identity that is the opposite of male"

That definition is less than helpful if clarity is what you're after. Why? Because the corresponding definition of "male" is

"having a gender identity that is the opposite of female"

That's the adjective. The definition of the noun "female" is a bit vague, referring to "a female person: a woman or a girl"

There seems to be a lot taken for granted or taken as read when talking about this stuff.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350865#Comment_119350865

It's okay to be any colour.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350889#Comment_119350889

As a woman, I find it really frustrating when that is resorted to. It's so disingenuous. We use the words woman, adult, human etc every day, knowing what they mean.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350889#Comment_119350889

You're the one who wrapped this up nicely in three words. Some people are asking what two of those words mean. Do you know?

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350856#Comment_119350856

That minimizes the impact of the question.

It may not affect you, but 50% of the population are women. If politicians are walking on eggshells to define it, and passing legislation that undermines women's rights, then this is not a small issue at all.

Live and let live is fine. When ideology is translated into legislation, that's when that principle crosses the line.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350891#Comment_119350891

An English teacher of my acquaintance in my youth (in other words, he didn't teach me English) was famed for saying "nouns have gender, people have sex".

Having had my end away recently, I know exactly what sex is. Are you by any chance questioning that? Just, y'know, asking.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350902#Comment_119350902

next you'll be asking about timezones,

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350902#Comment_119350902

You're asking but you know what what adult and female mean already in the case of humans, so why are you asking? Are you new to the english language or just disingenous?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350916#Comment_119350916

That probably had more meaning when you thought it than when you typed it. But do elaborate if you feel like it.

I mean, all words were randomly assigned, but when they're entrenched in literature, society, politics, healthcare, social policy... surely that is sufficient to tie them to a specific meaning?

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350917#Comment_119350917

Post-modernism is about deconstruction.

Destroy the meaning of everything, so that everything has no meaning. Then, you have the foundation upon which to build a new reality that reflects "the Facts" you believe.

This is an insidious, anti-scientific ideology that has gone too far. It's a religion; a cult.

And most importantly of all many, many trans- people agree with our side of the argument. Blaire White, a trans woman with over 1 million subscribers, says that she isn't a woman at all. That's why she had to transition to begin with. Amazingly, many trans activists call her transphobic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyzZ3J6IG6s

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350907#Comment_119350907

no, not at all... not in any serious way anyway.

uptherebels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350917#Comment_119350917

Or you could answer the questions. You seem to want to avoid doing it for some reason.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350932#Comment_119350932

adult: a person who has reached their 18th birthday, (but what if the place they are at that point is in an earlier timezone to where they were born?)

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350917#Comment_119350917

I've been speaking the English language a long time, and I'm being, pardon the pun, straight as an arrow. Your simple definition of "woman" relies on the definition of three other words. I didn't rely on those words; that was you. So I didn't create the problem for you; you created it for yourself, and all I'm doing is pointing at it and saying "look at that".

So you can tell us the clear definition of those words - or you can hold your manhood cheap. It's all the same to me.

So...

What IS an adult?

What IS a female?

All yours. 😁

Quantum Erasure

female : of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs,