A3 / Masters / Womens Nationals 2022

CramCycle

So who is going from here? Signed up myself despite being heavier than ever, no race fitness (I haven't even managed to get around a club league race for weeks now), so for me it is just a day out. Talking to a few who done this course at the National series awhile back it sounds like a narrow road for a big field so I imagine any early flyers could do well

Seperate Womens Championships and talking to a few in the club league it sounds like it will be strongly supported, going to try and get down in time to see the end of it.

dahat

Will be signing up myself once I clear my last “prep race” Sunday.

Course is narrow in places & it will pay to be handy all day for sure. One dig on each lap should make for a few attacks and a break or two to get away.

Hoping to get a top 20 myself so fingers crossed.

EAD

Doing the TT on Sat. Great TT course, did it when the Nationals were there in 2020. Pretty much a flat course on a lovely wide road with a good hard shoulder. Hope to give a better account of myself!

dahat

Is this on closed roads?

Comms car got stuck in a ditch there earlier this year, comms car vs truck & truck won!

CramCycle

For the Nationals I think they do aim for at least rolling closures involving the Gardai

CramCycle

For anyone who is interested, I am driving over from Wexford direction on Sunday morning, I'll be passing along south Wexford, Wexford town, New Ross, Waterford City, Carrick on Suir, Clonmel, and so on. Space for two riders and bikes if there is interest from anyone. No cost bar a coffee if we stop on the way back. I'll be early for the A3 Champs but happy to leave earlier to watch the Womens Champs if wanted.

seanin4711

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119330088#Comment_119330088

is it really 8am start?,seriously early!!!

EAD

I believe so, had assumed it would be 10 and we could head down Sat morning but it's a Friday night job now, bit of a pain in the behind!

CramCycle

Anyone and idea when the start lists are published?

dahat

Tuesday I’d say.

Hoping to have a small number in the masters 😂.

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119416982#Comment_119416982

My training plan in three bullet points:

• low entrys
• bad weather to put off riders
• that the TT riders who are doing the full weekend are absolutely ruined from the TT

dahat

Don’t see bad weather being a factor unfortunately.

A3 field is usually small given that M40 & jnrs can’t compete on the day so you’ll get lucky there I’d say.

As for the TT - those lads are animals & love suffering 😂.

Road race entries Thursday as per Facebook & great entries across the races it seems.

Morris Garren

Just asking: there appears to be both a 'Newcastlewest Cycling Club' as well as a 'Newcastle West Wheelers,' both presumably from the same town and with different facebook pages. Who is running the event and which should we be looking towards for official information? Wasnt aware that a small rural town had 2 clubs, or are they the same, just two pages?? I know a club in Leinster only this year had a bit of trouble with a fake page advertising/promoting spam material and behaving like trolls etc etc.

A dedicated event page would probably solve any anomalies but I know this whole event organisation thing is hard enough. Anybody got the inside info? Thanks.

dahat

Newcastle West Wheelers are the host club.

seanin4711

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119416982#Comment_119416982

See you there,me laddie

dahat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119420996#Comment_119420996

Patiently awaiting a start list...... reckon 100 in the masters?

Morris Garren

TT lists are published; it appears that one of the Masters women is riding the M40 men.... patiently awaiting clarification !

Morris Garren

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119427917#Comment_119427917

Let's assume there are a few 'errors' here-- there was facebook commentary about 'seeding' or whatnot, can't be sure how that worked out either.

Let's hope the event goes well in any case

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119427933#Comment_119427933

Turns out they lied to me 🤣 Hope it goes well anyway,

dahat

Races still open so we won’t see a road entry until Saturday I’d say.

Edit : start list now published for all races. M40 looks the usual high class affair, pray for the legs!!!

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119428053#Comment_119428053

Up now: https://www.cyclingireland.ie/downloads/CIA3MastersChampionship2022.pdf

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Anyone heading down from Dublin tomorrow eve?

dahat

Sorry I studied the M40 list, looks like an A1 race. Should be fast & furious.

nailik

Anyone where sign on is for the road race? And what time? I'm doing the M50 race, which is due to start at 12.15pm

Than

Morris Garren

Is there a no-fly-zone in West Limerick or something? Information on the national championships is close to zero and very scant coverage on any local media yesterday,

Will we send in the pigeons?

dahat

Cycle Ireland Insta page for info.

M40 for me- 50km & 42.7 and dropped so game over 😂.

fat bloke

Well, my Mrs is on her way home with a medal! That's all my "Event Participant" and "Sportive Finisher" prizes displaced from the mantlepiece!

G1032

Any results for today yet? Can't find them anywhere.

G1032

This is a total joke that results of the nationals aren't out yet. What on earth is the delay? Ridiculous

dahat

All I know is Vinny Gleason of Greenmount won the M50 from a break.

Morris Garren

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119442159#Comment_119442159

Was that info via morse code or semaphore???

I don't want to have a go at race organisers as its a tough gig but the fact that CI cannot coordinate some degree of media output from what is admittedly a very well entered and popular series of championship races is nigh-on ridiculous. I noticed that Sticky Bottle had to re-publish the TT report yesterday as a fair bit of it was arseways but again they are not to blame, working off bits of info from the great beyond.

I dunno Ted... ?

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Results and footage was on the CI insta.

Savage well done to your partner fat_bloke, brilliant ride and brilliant result from what looked like an attacking race. Chapeau V!

Morris Garren

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119442515#Comment_119442515

So who won the 4 mens races? Any news?

dahat

Results on CI Twitter account now ( eventually).

G1032

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119442479#Comment_119442479

It's a disgrace. License fee is expensive enough and we can't even get results. They have posted the top 3 in each race on Twitter in the last few minutes. Take care could they tell us the top 10.

I have no words tbh. Shambles maybe. There's a word.

dahat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119442667#Comment_119442667

One thing I was wondering about was the lack of chip timing for all races today. At €50 entry on open roads a confirmed time & placing for those who finished was to be expected for me.

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119442730#Comment_119442730

Chip timing still has to be confirmed by the Comms, so is effectively useless for Cycling afaik. Same as the results taking awhile, Comms still have to confirm everything in line with UCI rules AFAIK.

I enjoyed today, A3s were very negative which was great craic to act the pr1ck and go off the front every lap. When the lad in white broke away on the second last lap I was over the moon as he left the lads who were negating all the other breaks in his dust and they expected others to follow.

Managed to hang on till the end but two crashes in the last 600m made me just ride it in, I wasn't going to compete anyway so was glad to miss the final crash at the line.

Funny that A3s do that thing they give out to A4s and sprint for nothing. Also the littering from some riders was a pisstake.

G1032

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119443212#Comment_119443212

The way it's gone, as I see it anyway, is that a lot of A3s got to A3 by waiting for the sprint and just think that the same tactic should naturally work in A3. I hate that style of racing. I rarely contest a sprint, unless it's opened up and there's space, because A) I can't sprint and B) I have work on the Monday morning and a family to feed.

Littering - Nothing boils my blood like that. Who the F do they think they are?

seanin4711

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119427500#Comment_119427500

Trained for 6months with masters TT in mind.

Have done a dozen events all season including Connacht TT champs(issue should have been highlighted here in hindsight,but wasn't,keep reading!)

Saturday woke up @5:30 headed off to Newcastle west.

Got there for 7:35 commissars #1 leaving hotel for start line(10mins earlier than advertised).

I was told to rush to start to get bike checked- did so.

I was asked by commisare #2 what brand of bike was it and was it UCI compliant(sticker etc)

Winspace TT100 and frantically googleing to see if bike was UCI,it wasn't - so disappointed ,after jumping through so many UCI hoops in terms of bike setup all year to be told it wasn't on the approved frameset list.

I didn't have any answers for the CI guys unfortunately.

I was never going to medal,just building towards the event all year and give it max effort on a great course,with conditions so ideal.

I think the commissars should work in CI accounting dept,they wouldn't miss a trick and CI wouldn't be in so much trouble currently.

Goes to show it is very much elitist and does have something for everyone,only if can afford a 5K tt bike.

TT Frame for sale!

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119443502#Comment_119443502

Its moronic because they have the power to shut down attacks and bridges, so they would make decent breakaways but they catch the break and start disruptive riding. They aren't on a team with numbers, makes no sense. I'd sooner have a craic from a breakaway of four or seven riders, than a bunch gallop where a load of riders can't seem to go in a straight line or behave. I'll drop a mail to the clubs secretary of one I could ID but the rest were in the bunch. **** A3s thinking they are in a grand tour, such sh1te will piss off locals and get races shut down and quite rightly.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119443630#Comment_119443630

Balls, sorry to hear that. A shame they wouldn't let you ride and just have you excluded from the standings if that makes sense.

elchupanebrey

I did the masters TT the previous 2 years and there was no bike check, wonder why it's so important now.

seanin4711

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119443716#Comment_119443716

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119443693#Comment_119443693

bike check nazis this year

dahat

I got pulled asides & warned at the start for cutting the CI numbers to fit my jersey, a bit petty given there was no impact on the sponsors.

edit: misleading phrase changed.

seanin4711

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119443844#Comment_119443844

they let you start?

Morris Garren

There is a video of the A3 finish (Athy Cycling Club?) and well done to the podium guys who broke away to take the medals. 3 riders from 3 good, solid bike racing clubs to my mind.

Great to see that type of thing given the mindless 'chasing down' that happens

Behind, the bunch features a guy in the top 10 who literally sits up and stretches himself, arms off the bars, in the final 20 metres (wtf?) and a crash involving riders who seem to be sprinting for about 30th position. Comms would be better off chucking these guys out DQ etc for dangerous riding, instead of annoying riders about cutting numbers and other pedantics

beggars_bush

why did the commissars not reinstate the break in the A3 race when they had to stop to let the M50 pass?

all the messing with bike frames and numbers would put people off entering competitions.

isn't CI meant to be about encouraging people to cycle?

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119443953#Comment_119443953

It was about 5 seconds up the road, maybe 10 and was about to be caught. I heard the complaints at the time but from someone about 5th wheel in the bunch, I don't think it made any difference. Also the way it stopped and a few riders going up the outside, caused more hassle than it was worth to try and filter it out again with traffic building behind.

seanin4711

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119443953#Comment_119443953

I wonder can i get a refund 50 quid?

commisaires very pedantic, OTT - tbh!

dahat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119443897#Comment_119443897

Yea but tbh they could have done me a favour in not letting me start.

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119443844#Comment_119443844

Depends on the Comms for that, I've seen races where riders have it trimmed down to barely the number and nothing said, and others were someone has taken a sliver off the side to fit around stitching getting a warning. A bit like the TT frame, the only real issue that is there is no consistency and communciation. A reminder at the start of the year that trimmed numbers are not allowed or emailing all TT entrants, who might be coming over from other sports or club leagues where no one is checking, what the rules are. There were Masters riders hiding at the start as they didn't have frame numbers, only ICVA ones. I'll say nothing as I had mine in those TT suit see through pockets and I'm not convinced they are too size the way they fold a bit.

I presume it was only a warning though and you weren't made change to spare numbers.

Macy0161

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