NBA 2K23

Zero-Cool

So, another year, another NBA 2K that about 4 of us will really hope is good but spend most of the thread complaining about it.

You know it's bad when we're waiting for EA of all devs to come back and deliver a basketball game designed for players and but their pockets.

Anyway, 2K has started its hype train but an NBA insider has leaked that the cover athlete will be Devin Booker. Strange choice, my first thought of him from the past season is having a mascot removed for trying to distract him during his freethrows..

Anyway anyway, what really has me worried is that they'll use 23 to put Jordan on the Legend Edition and will be very tempting to go for that.

I can't even begin to think how they'll top their fashion music bollox from the last game but the warehouse (instant match making game with no waiting around) was a huge plus so hopefully see some more player friendly additions this year.

https://twitter.com/NBA2K/status/1542553592938303496?t=GxUyLIuSXIY2_dXGWzZD2Q&s=19

Potential-Monke

I'm not even going to bother holding any hoe after my recent experience with 22. I'll keep an eye just to see how worse they make it!

And like you said, bad when we're waiting on EA.

Zero-Cool

I've been playing Live 19 again recently and as much as i liked it on release, it was missing something from 18. I built a few different slashing pg's with max dribbling but i could never break ankles where as that was my favourite thing to do in 18. Only recently, I read on Reddit that the best build is a wing shooter where you pick VC as your icon so your main skills are 3pt, Dunk & Dribbling and I have to say it's definitely the most fun I've had with 19. Even with low stats, i hit open 3's, break ankles and throw down dunks when i drive. Wish i knew that build earlier.

With the final season of 2k22 released, i installed it again and saw they are giving away 99 rated my team players so gave that a go to find my save file was corrupted and lost all my custom court and Jersey settings and it wouldn't let me play a game until i set them up again so didn't bother.

Threw on my career save, a 91 rated PG and it was so much fun to play as. Really fast, breaking ankles, dunking and 3's at will. It really shows that you have to put in money or time before you start having fun with it. I have another 90 character, paint beast, that i built with no extra VC involved but it meant finishing music and fashion quests to get a few hundred K vc to make him a proper player. I shouldn't have to walk down a **** fashion runway to upgrade my player! But again, lot of fun playing as the big with proper ratings. Compared to my 2 recent attempts at a new player where i had no extra vc and not doing the quests, it was just shyte to actually play. Infuriating game design. They have a brilliant game but it's behind a wall of 2K greed

Zero-Cool

Jordan will be on the cover for the Jordan and Championship editions

Jordan Challenges recreated from 2K11 and new ones added. I loved those, this game already has its hooks in me with that. Apparently the Championship edition comes with a season of NBA League Pass which is class but no idea on price until Thursday when preorders go live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBZ_q6wIJKY

Along with Michael Jordan returning to grace the covers of NBA 2K23 this year, the game will also reintroduce The Jordan Challenge, which encourages players to recreate 15 iconic moments from Jordan’s illustrious career. All ten of the original Challenges from NBA 2K11 have been completely rebuilt from the ground up and will make their return this year - alongside five new iconic Jordan moments - for an entire new generation of players to experience. These Challenges take advantage of more than a decade of technological leaps to provide a completely new way to play through Jordan’s accomplishments - all housed within its own game mode.

The Jordan Challenge also elevates an array of spellbinding performances across Jordan’s college, NBA, and Team USA Basketball careers that players can experience across all 15 Challenges and includes unique video vignettes that come with special commentary from an array of NBA luminaries: Jordan’s teammates, opponents, and other sports personalities, who saw him do it live and can bring to life his legacy to a younger generation of NBA fans. More details on The Jordan Challenge in NBA 2K23 will be released later this summer.

Michael Jordan is one of the most decorated athletes in the NBA and NBA 2K history, and the NBA 2K23 Michael Jordan Edition and NBA 2K23 Championship Edition collectively mark his fourth time headlining an NBA 2K cover. He was previously on the cover for NBA 2K11, NBA 2K12, and the NBA 2K16 Special Edition. Stay tuned for more cover athlete reveals the next two days and pricing when pre-orders go live on July 7.

Zero-Cool

So, looks like the base edition will be 70$, Jordan will be be 100$ and Championship edition will be $150. Last year, the editions were €80 and €100 over here so will be interesting if it's the same this year. Champ edition comes with a year of NBA League Pass which is 200 euro alone. Great deal for anyone who gets both pass and the game anyway.

Also looks like a copy and paste of last year's with city on new gen, cruise ship on last gen with seasons for both. Hopefully the season rewards this year won't be absolute crap but not holding my breath. I have 50 euro Gamestop credit and 50 euro gift card so think I'm gonna spring for the Jordan edition. If i had to pay 100 cash, think I'd wait for a sale around Christmas.

https://twitter.com/2KIntel/status/1544465217144373250?t=hIZR7sVkWcFhUC7OSxTBQQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/2KIntel/status/1544463606602932224?t=NgU5B5NbnDXMAKjpHbhnAw&s=19

https://twitter.com/2KIntel/status/1544461209503731712?t=kxgmC4k1gVRFudPPGGk0AA&s=19

Andrew76

What a **** rip off those prices are. I guess the young lad can wait for a sale, Jordan edition would be nice but not a chance I’m paying a ton for it. He still plays 22 religiously anyway so that’ll do him. 😁

Zero-Cool

I rang gamestop and they are taking preorders. 80 euro for base game, 110 for MJ edition and 160 for champ edition. Last year the special edition was 100 and i got it for 80 by accident. 110 is an awful kick for the 100kv and other boosts.

Zero-Cool

Smyths selling regular edition for 80. PSN/Xbox selling regular for 80 (last gen 70), MJ for 100 and Champ for 150 so Gamestop have thrown on an extra tenner to MJ and Champ editions because why not.

https://youtu.be/GpylX_OQrnk

https://youtu.be/an8gLxagaog

Zero-Cool

The main leaker of NBA 2K games has gotten some info about the new city. 13 seasons with each season in a new city and country. So far, The US, UK, Australia & France confirmed. Career follows a player traveling the world to become drafted in the NBA. Not sure how that would work though, surely you'd get drafted within the first season (few weeks of the game being out). Sounds interesting though.

https://twitter.com/2KIntelx/status/1545855693223350272?t=v3UPlK6tzWIpACj43w1f_A&s=19

Zero-Cool

Scratch that, it's fake. Someone spent days creating a 3d model of a city with a fair paycheck from the devs to prove he was paid for designing the city. He wanted no credit, just wanted to mess with Intel2k leaks.

https://twitter.com/2KIntel/status/1546125947463688198?t=Te8jx0XOngXTyDrc-zHSLA&s=19

The Bollocks

Shite game. Microtransaction bullsh!t. Fcuk this game.

Zero-Cool

1st 'gameplay' trailer. Looks great and animations are smooth but looks good every year so hard to judge from that.

https://youtu.be/RxLS5Tgo9YM

Zero-Cool

Courtside Report 1 - Gameplay Improvements. Some excellent updates here as long as they work as intended and as long as devs don't revert them once youtubers start complaining. Sounds much more balanced this year. Love the mechanic of controlled physics based rim hangs.

https://nba.2k.com/2k23/courtside-report/gameplay-enhancements/

Vital Transformation

Beggars belief that the PC version still won't have next-gen graphics, the third year on the trot. It's been in place on the new PS/Xbox since 2K21.

Zero-Cool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119437980#Comment_119437980

It's just crazy. Are they that bad at porting over the best gen version or is there money to be made from the decision but yeah, can't think of any other game that does this.

Vital Transformation

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119438011#Comment_119438011

I've no idea to be honest. No doubt the console versions sell more, probably significantly more, so they put more effort into them. Visual Concepts are the development team for all platforms so maybe their PC division isn't getting the funding, manpower etc. that the console people are. Apparently 2K is the most popular online sports game for PC in China though, so I think they need to stop pissing off the PC customers. They're getting trashed in user reviews on sites like Metacritic, people were already annoyed about the microtransactions.

Expecting 2K23 to look the exact same as the last two games graphically with just the usual gameplay tweaks and the updated roster. Personally found pick and rolls more difficult on 2K22 than any game before.

Zero-Cool

The Jordan Challenges look so good. The gameplay differences are such a nice touch like the game being slower, the AI making more cuts to the basket instead of popping out for a 3, now post and mid range baskets. Take me back to the 90's!

https://youtu.be/rb9SbhsgT5o

https://nba.2k.com/2k23/courtside-report/the-jordan-challenge/

Zero-Cool

MyNBA news today. Era's added where you can pick 80's, 90's, 2000's or modern nba to run a League with. All era's have specific teams, courts, jerseys, rules and presentations. I always wanted to have a 90's League but it looked like a lot of work on previous games, will definitely give this a go.

https://nba.2k.com/2k23/courtside-report/mynba/

Zero-Cool

Courtside report for My Team. Some great changes here. Contracts are finally no more and not being replaced by anything else. Restart single player games instantly if you want. Clutch time, fast paced single quarter games with 14 sec shotclock and 4 point line is now available in single player mode. Triple Threat is now also single player and CO-OP. join up with friends to take on AI or other players online. Also, player lock is now a thing in any myteam mode. You no longer need to control the whole team if you don't want and can lock to position or player.

https://nba.2k.com/2k23/courtside-report/myteam-reveal/

Potential-Monke

Anything about MyCareer yet? For a game that's out in 10 days, it's very telling they have nothing about it yet...

Zero-Cool

Apparently that courtside report will be out Wednesday. They've done the same for the last few years, courtside reports release each week covering the different modes with career and Park being the last ones, a week before release. The career trailer always has a lot of hype but it's shyte how close to release it's out. Pity they don't do the prelude/demo anymore.

Zero-Cool

News plan from tomorrow up until game release.

https://twitter.com/2KIntel/status/1564661325648875524?t=MsVRqbyVsfBd-jQ7OkPCTQ&s=19

Zero-Cool

MyCareer trailer. So, it looks like you pick your NBA team and instantly get drafted to them. The problem is that the team and fans in The City wanted draft pick Shep Owens instead so the goal is to win over your team by playing well and the city by doing music & fashion quests (a-fucken-gain!!) until you become the one everyone loves. 2K just can't help but go all in with these cheesy rivalry stories. They say you won't have to do any of the non basketball stuff but I know full well that there will be VC to be made from it so it will be the quickest way of upgrading your player without spending money.

Some of the streetball clips reminded me of White Men Can't Jump which I can definitely get behind but who knows what silly fetch quests they'll have you do just to have you run past their sponsor billboard hundreds of times.

https://youtu.be/Xf-qXaxgsFs

Potential-Monke

No mention of starting from 65, or not, so I'd imagine you're still starting from 65 and it'll cost and arm and a leg and sanity to grind it up, while apparantly being good enough to be a direct draft...

Zero-Cool

One thing I'm excited about is this. It was ridiculous in 22 his high my 3pt % was every game and i wasn't even a 3 specialist. I like that it will take more skill to hit 3's this time and higher ratings. But because of the lag on park, this was the first year i could consistently score. If timing is more important now, it will be dodgy taking shots. It will be great watching other players miss though, i regeneration it was like that in 21, 3's clanging all over the shop and everyone complaining, was great. Hopefully 2K hold firm and don't give in to the YouTubers.

https://twitter.com/Beluba/status/1565489118653534209?t=uYEmvaP_4ebb1LuskeJEmQ&s=19

Zero-Cool

2K had a community day for content creators last week where they were shown Jordan Challenges and the new my player builder. They can show Jordan Challenge gameplay today and builder stuff tomorrow so some good videos out there. The old era filters look class but glad they can be turned off, would definitely get hard to look at the bluriness.

The new 3 bar adrenaline system looks like it will be a game changer for guards spamming dribble moves. So far, the Jordan challenges look like a lot of fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiy7y6q6kWo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRLErKN4_Tw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUjhV7vWcw

Zero-Cool

Lot of new vids about My Player builder and it looks way more strict than 2K22. They really want you to not only focus on certain attributes this year but also just certain badges. For 22, my PG and C could do so many things across attributes and badges, they were superstars but that meant everyone was a superstar. Now there should be easy more varied builds. Only issue is that on single player career, you might want the superstar player and that's why single player career should be separate from online park.

I get you could create a 99 player for a team in My League and play locked to him but i prefer career, just hope my player doesn't become too crap with the new restrictions.

https://youtu.be/GYiYwFO7-z8

Zero-Cool

The City trailer and info. Looks smaller, has fast travel stations and each affiliation court looks like it has it's own server. Looking way better than last city.

https://nba.2k.com/2k23/courtside-report/the-city/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfTSxvtLhe4

Zero-Cool

So just played over an hour and really really like it. Mostly played My Team and the gameplay is so smooth, great animations and some nice new touches added. Started My Career but not sure on my build so might do another one tomorrow. Player upgrade is expensive, It costs 100k vc to upgrade from a 60 to 75. Now I've no idea what kind of vc the quests give, last year, you could get 200k vc doing them so time will tell on that but could be a slow start. I got the jordan edition so that will help things but positive first impression anyway. Waiting for 2K to disappoint me but enjoying the short time I've played so far.

Potential-Monke

Wow, they've made it even worse?! 100k VC got you to 85 last year no? Some balls by 2K in fairness, they're openly and blatantly fcuking over people only interested in MyCareer and people are lapping it up... Knowing that, I won't even give this a go if it comes free on GP/PS+. EA need to get back in the game asap.

Zero-Cool

I think last year was similar, it was nearly 200k to upgrade from 60 to 85. I'd have to double check but i remembered spending 100k vc on upgrading and then either 100k from quests got me to 85.

Clothing and stuff is **** mental. A pair of crocs is 15k, they really are taking the piss but most people are running around at 85 and in mental clothes so 2k are raking it in.

It's a real pity as it's the best gameplay in years. They added a weight to it, feels more like Live now, very physical and less floaty animations. It's a blast to play but it really needs to have career separated from park/city.

Potential-Monke

I wouldn't mind but they said that nearly every NBA 2K player plays MyCareer. Sounds good, but no interest in being a terrible draft regardless of my own skill. Shame, again. Expected though so doesn't sting this year. 85 should be the starting stat, or at least build a proper pre-NBA mode (college, foreign, whatever) to play your way up to 85. Gas that the career trailer even says that the character is 100% interested in the game and not the fluff, but it's still full of fluff...

But as you noticed, the sheeple continue to throw money at them so why would they change. No competition so no need to. Just so galling that your in-game VC earning is pittance yet everything costs more than a mid-sized compact car.

Zero-Cool

Okay, so after a few days of playing this, the gameplay is sublime, best basketball game in a long long time. But Jesus, the VC is a killer. Looks like it takes 400k to get to 99 this year and no quests have given me vc yet. At least last year the absolutely boring quests gave me 100-200k vc. So, upgrades more expensive, items more expensive and less VC given out. It's such a damn shame as there is a brilliant game underneath the greed.

Saying that, my 78 rated player is still a joy to play with. Could obviously be faster and have better animations but I'm getting 20-30 points per game, multiple rebounds, blocks and assists too so it's still fun to play. I haven't even tried park yet though with that kind of rating.

I might try the W for a womens career as there's no vc in that mode, upgrading works like the recent NBA Live games.

Potential-Monke

Thanks for clarifying that I won't be picking it up. Can't support that greed.

Zero-Cool

IGN review actually nails it. Best basketball game in years but career mode is too hard to enjoy because of everything being so expensive and not being able to complete online unless you spend money to upgrade your character. Outside career, Jordan challenges, My Team, NBA Era's, The W are all great to play.

6/10 lowest score in years. 2K obviously don't listen to their fans and I doubt they care about reviews when they have their core players spending money each year. Goddamn EA, just announce a new Live PLEASE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=857jkVK3tkM

v3ttel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119620443#Comment_119620443

It's the best 2K in a long time, but the cost to upgrade your player (plus they are stingy with VC as rewards) is a pain. The lag in the park makes shooting insanely difficult. The shot meter is way off and the timing of jumpers online/offline varies so much. Always been like that I suppose, but it feels as bad now as any year. I don't know how people can practice with the lag without losing a lot of games. Shooting is a different experience offline.

Despite the issues, really enjoying the game overall. If anyone is up for playing some park, let me know (PS5). Would be so much better to team up with people who pass rather than random ball hogs.

Zero-Cool

Yupp, fully agree. I have an 82 3pt rating for my 6'10 PF but i only take open dunks/layups. I have my PF up to 81 rating at the moment which last year had me at a great balance of attributes but this year, i have a good few areas to pump up. I hate when I'm wide open for a 3 because I'm expected to take it but no with the lag it's gonna be random. I can only assume it's because we're on American servers.

Absolutely on for some park games. Just had some warehouse games of the assist bonus and dopes were still ball hogging, over dribbling and shooting bricks. When we actually played proper basketball, we were beating 90+ rated players with ease.

I'm loving the gameplay, it's just a pity 2K and try to spoil the fun at every turn.

I think i have you added already? What's your psn? Mine is zero-cool-ire

Zero-Cool

Time absolutely flies playing this, the nba games are a lot of fun. I did notice this though, your teammate grade seems to start reducing on it's own at certain periods. Thought i was going mad until i saw my A go to an A- with me just playing offball D. Teammate grade is tougher this year with most missed shots giving you 'bad shot selection' and 'bad block attempt' has returned. It's like they don't want you to earn the top VC for A+ which was much handier to get last year. Also, just checked and it's costing 21k VC to go from an 81 to an 82, it's so disheartening.

https://twitter.com/Sheehy_83/status/1571262799518760960?t=tdIZDIkQGTFJEq1dbaiU2g&s=19

Zero-Cool

Looks like the meta build was found, 6'9 PG with HOF playmaking badges that a 6'4 guard can't get and can pretty much do everything except rebound.

I'm a bit sickened as that's the type of build I wanted in the first place, a lanky playmaker but i drifted into PF with no post moves so have to stay on the outside. No way am i starting a new build so will wait to get to 90 rating (if that ever happens, it's currently 20k vc to get from 81 to 82) and use my rebirth on a new build where the instant badges might carry me until i level up.

https://youtu.be/j0Nj8kNjnTI

Zero-Cool

Anyone on for some Park? Theater has some good games for matchmaking.

Zero-Cool

Right, 2 weeks down and I'm finally figuring out how to enjoy the game with the VC problem. My player is at an 83 rated 6'10 PF. I made some mistakes with my build (no post abilities, no strength, low interior defence and mid perimeter defense), my PF position keeps putting me places where my stats are weakest. I should have made a SF. Anyway, I'm wrecking career games, rookie of the month 2 months running and having a blast.

I tried the City, mostly Theater games (instant matchmaking) and my guy can actually hang with the 90+ players. The ONLY thing holding me back is the latency. Shooting is an absolute liability online with the delay, impossible to hit a shot so i play my role and there's actually been great basketball played so far. Great to see so many bricked 3's and it's fun grabbing boards and owning the paint.

It made me realise I wish I had 2 separate builds, one for career and 1 for City. All offense in career and all defense in city, so that's my current goal. Get my current build to a 90, unlock rebirth and create a new build just for online. Now, the thoughts of building up a new player knowing how little vc you get from quests is very disheartening but the game is really fun to play so gonna grind it out.

Man, if they just have more vc rewards or made it a free to play game, it would cement itself as the best 2K yet.

Jordan 199

Zero, do you wear Air Jordan while playing the game? 😉

Zero-Cool

I can't afford Air Jordans, spent enough on this game :D

Zero-Cool

Code for 25kvc from uk/Irish site. I put it onto the nba 2k23 app and worked if anyone wants to try it.

Edit: all gone now. They'll be putting up another code this evening.

https://twitter.com/nba2k_uki/status/1573735036238569472?t=Dt0RDCz-9GojuPZ0XWXIhQ&s=19

Zero-Cool

Quick i just got v this as well

https://twitter.com/nba2k_uki/status/1573746327762227200?t=pi9wIorlxFx5hgbspHjpFA&s=19

Zero-Cool

Man, 75k vc for free, should get me very close to 90 but no idea if i should put it into a new build with no badges or use it to start a new build at 60 with rebirth badges.

Potential-Monke

I had Tiny Tinas game to trade in. With the Epic card, it was giving me €35 to trade in. I have a €50 One4All voucher. I still didn't want to spend the few extra quid to get the Jordan edition because the 100k VC isn't enough. I ended up trading it in against God of War preorder (and got €45 off instead). As you said, it looks like a good game but I couldn't justify it in the end. Like you said, should be F2P if that's the model.

Zero-Cool

You also know it's gonna go way down in price, usually around January, if you're able to hold out.

The worst thing about it is knowing how hard it will be to try new builds. Last year, you could spend a couple of hours doing career quests to bring you up to an 85 so you could blast through multiple builds. This year, it's a pain just thinking about my 2nd build. Seems to be the biggest complaint online as well. Some mid content creators have called out 2K on it, some big ones acknowledged it but said it's never going to change, nothing they can do (typical yes man response) and the majority have said nothing. They ask want to keep their privileges.

Potential-Monke

Even then, I probably still won't. It sounds like far too much work, considering I quit fairly quickly on 2K22 because of the lack of progress and how it throws you into career deciding games without so much as a chance. If it's taking twice as long... It would want to be F2P+200kVC to get me in at this point.

Zero-Cool

Good laugh with V3ttel last night in Theatre games (instant matchmaking). Some highlights I caught, I missed the 3 point shot we each made which was a sickner as the latency made it really hard to time shots so yeah, most of plays in this vid are in the paint.

Also, you can see at 15 seconds in, my screen freezes for 2 seconds. That's not Youtube processing, that was happening to me in game, absolute pain to be dealing with when I have a plugged network connection with 500mbs dl and 50mbs ul.

Myself in Green, V3ttel in Black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT8WZd-T0Xc

Jordan 199

You do like the green colour Zero. From racing green Renault Clio's in GT7 to shooting hoops in green clothing :)