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Labour TD Ged Nash against homes for Ukrainians

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Allinall


    "TD in 'representing the views of his constituents'" shocker.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    2300 people being parachuted into laytown... what services are currently there... ?

    Well at least there is a garda station for starters...





  • Registered Users Posts: 68,502 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Your claim is not accurately reflected in the article you linked. Did you actually read it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    3 billion, that's 3% per cent of our next budget is going to be spent on our Ukrainian refugees and you can be sure when they eventually go home (because Ukrainians are actual refugees not opportunistic migrants) all those properties and that budget will kept for the asylum economy



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,156 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes




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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It's part of the Louth one so yes it is, but it's a Meath CC area. The change happened in 2011 when Louth became a five seater.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    All TDs are very aware of how acute the housing shortage and shortage of rental accommodation is and how it needs to be declared a national emergency.

    But they also need to point out how projects in their constituency are unsuitable for the area, full of transients, renters and incompatible with impacts on the local society.


    Nothing new.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,148 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    god, the opening line, 'a village has gone to war' is idiotic given the context.



  • Registered Users Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Irelandsnumberone


    Services? Its Ireland we will react to that issue when it starts to become a problem not before they move in



  • Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭dorothylives


    Do you honestly believe they'll go home? I don't. Why would they? Over 1000 euro a month for not working. 140 per euro per child per month in Child Benefit. Free Medical card. Free primary secondary and now 3rd level education with a grant at 3rd level and no proof required that they were ever enrolled in a university in Ukraine. I've seen far more healthy young Ukrainians in my neck of the woods than I've seen over 65's. Far too many young couples without kids are here at our expense.

    Drogheda had diversity issues on the railway for a long time with antisocial behaviour. Mosney is huge and now they want to put hundreds of modular homes in the area too. It's not on. Anyone who thinks Ukrainians are going home is mistaken. Take a look at any of the Ukrainian refugees in Ireland Facebook or Social Media sites and you will see the attitude of entitlement and other Ukrainians who went elsewhere, looking for info on how they can get here to get more benefits.

    My 2 favourites lately were the lady who wanted a free trampoline for her daughter in Dublin. The second a Ukrainian woman who married a Turkish guy then they'd moved to his home in Turkey after 3 years in Ukraine, asking whether or not he'd be allowed to come with her to Ireland. It's a national disgrace the government giveaway to Ukrainians that's going on.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭freemickey


    "they are seeking permission to build the 2 bed units over 5 years"


    5 years.


    To the last gombeen that believes there's anything temporary about this latest cohort of people moving into the country wholesale, please, think.

    The country is already run into the ground as it is, notwithstanding that at least there's a shred of legitimacy to this latest colony forming move.

    You know there's a few people feigning concern while dreaming of the money they'll make out of this, "that's the housing crisis secured for a nice wee while extra!". The rest of the country in due course is going to put a hammer through this horse sh*it, watch it unfold out of sheer necessity, accompanied with the handwringing and soapboxing, the whole shebang. Great little job they've made of the place now and later.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    yep, It’s not temporary. Never was. That was just a sales pitch.

    we know that… the polite manner of referring to a person who believes it is, would be that they are… ‘ naive ‘.

    if Sweden, Switzerland, Norway or Denmark were being invaded… we were to offer a dig out…we know most , well a percentage in the 90’s will return… all are extremely affluent countries, well run, packed with amenities, absolutely brilliant public services from public transport to healthcare and opportunities for people…

    the Ukraine is fûckin light years away from that. Pre war light years away. So now ….fkkkk

    people are coming here with a dual purpose in their ambitions…. Security / safety…certainly…. AND a better long term future / present. Make no mistake.

    Russia will be a threat for quite a while, as long as Putin is living and breathing and the likelihood is for years after.

    the resulting impact on our small nation, it’s/our resources, opportunities and quality of life are simply going to be eroded / diluted… and the same to be repeated right through the EU. The EU is fuçked btw.

    As a small island nation on the periphery we are more vulnerable economically, socially in fact in every manner…yet here we are.

    all the work done by people here facilitating Ireland’s successes over the last 25 years…just pissed up against the wall…capital projects going forward… won’t even be discussed…. No point, we won’t have the money….

    Homes for Ukrainians, homes for taxpayers ? We are on a looser and paying for the privilege.



  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭freemickey


    I know it's very particular and can be picked apart as an exercise, but if you had a time machine and went back to the wholesale building of homes in the 50's/60's/70's/80's, and told the people doing the work that essentially theyre building this house or that house for the ultimate benefit of some family from India or Germany or what have you, how many would just put the tools down and say "to f*ck with this!"?

    Plenty, I would imagine, if not every last one.

    Build a permanent asylum town on one of the islands for this exact reason. Provides all the safety and function needed for emergencies, allowed fallow and maintained when not needed. Time to go? Time to go.

    This bloody lunacy of just handing away homes, nevermind during a housing crisis, to every knob that puts it's hand up from Earth has the deep strategic thought of a lobotomised lemon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    In fairness a medical card is handy when you have a trampoline.



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I find your post sad& depressing......... but TRUE. 2things we can now take as facts....1, the Russian invasion isn't going to finish in 2022 & probably not in 23' even. 2. The vast majority of the Ukrainian refugees will NOT be returning home for a long long time



  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭chuchuchu


    Back of the queue, they shouldnt be getting priority ahead of everybody else, dont know why this goverment is drooling all over Ukrainians



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,094 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    We already have a thread on Ukrainian refugees in Ireland



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