General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

kowloonkev

Shirt pull now in the box. Spurs have a VAR invisibility shield?

tayto lover

Do Spurs own VAR?

kowloonkev

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120455146#Comment_120455146

Already looking forward to that ref on Sky trying to justify this.

tayto lover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120455160#Comment_120455160

There's been enough reasons in this game alone to scrap VAR altogether.

Mr.Crinklewood

Why don't the Spurs players just pick the ball up,run the length of the field and punch the ball into the net?

~Rebel~

Poor auld Brighton, deserved 3 points on merit, and instead they’ve none.

Bounty Hunter

Was listening to talk sport recently (i know that in itself is the problem) and they were having a discussion about if Lampard wins the Champions league with Chelsea should he get the job permanently.... I sure do miss that Pac man emoticon

kowloonkev

One of the biggest injustices I've seen in a single game. Lee Mason really shouldn't have bothered resigning if these clowns are still there.

That Brighton Spurs game was ridiculous, the ref just refused to give Brighton anything and VAR would only intervene if it helped Spurs. You'd wonder.

mobydopy

Brighton clearly robbed but even the Stellini red card made absolutely no sense. He was standing away from all the commotion around De Zerbi but still got sent off. Stuart Atwell and whoever was in charge of VAR for that game shouldn't referee another game this season

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120455364#Comment_120455364

Commentary on peacock said both managers were shown a red card for failure to keep control of their technical areas.

It is a Dunne Deal

Brighton absolutely robbed that was criminal. Massive wins for West Ham, Wolves and Bournemouth. Leicester looked gooseed a lot of players there who think they are better than they are no guts for a relegation scrap. Newcastle win their fifth in a row having been behind at half time.

pjohnson

Lampard showing the brilliance of Boehly today.

They have Madrid right where they want them.

SlickRic

City turgid, then bang.

y0ssar1an22

here's the highlights. 100% a pen. mitoma disallowed goal for handball is suspect. the other disallowed goal...unsure what that was for but could be a function of the not great replay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU_GmSx70lo&ab_channel=SkySportsPremierLeague

y0ssar1an22

the man is just unstoppable. brings his tally to 30 in the league, 44 in all comps

machiavellianme

I've rewatched both Brightons alleged handballs from multiple angles and still can't see how they were varred out?

kowloonkev

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120455443#Comment_120455443

What surprised me most is that Mitoma's goal was disallowed by the linesman. It's very unusual these days for a linesman to get involved in that situation when he knows VAR is there to take responsibility.

I'm not sure what the rule is these days. If above the sleeve line is not handball, as was the case last year, then 100% it's a valid goal. Even if above the sleeve is handball then it is not clear that it should be ruled out.

But for some reason that linesman wanted to disallow that goal. And VAR official was too gutless to overturn it. The media seem to be getting behind the story so hopefully those officials will at least be punished.

kowloonkev

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120455546#Comment_120455546

The second one is fine. It deflects off his hand into the net. I don't care where his hand is, if the key touch that makes the goal comes off the hand then it should be ruled out.

machiavellianme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120455573#Comment_120455573

If it touches the hand at all, I agree with you, but I've yet to see a conclusive angle that it does. Do you happen to have one?

Headshot

That Brighton game makes a mockery of VAR

VAR was meant to be brought in to stop awful decisions like we saw in the Brighton match but like the days before VAR it's reliant on refs like Attwell who shouldn't be referring at this level of the game

I've gone really sour on VAR and I was a big advocate of it BUT the refs and the powers that be have destroyed it

crushproof

Just watched the Brighton highlights on MOTD. Absolutely the worst example of the farce of VAR. Brighton robbed of two penalties and at least one goal there.

fullstop

Said 20 times already but the refereeing of that Spurs v Brighton game was an absolute disgrace.

Lenglet handball should have been a pen, not given. Mitoma goal disallowed for handball when it hit him on the shoulder (could have also been a pen as Romero pushed him in the back with 2 hands). Welbeck disallowed goaL was a farce. Dunk could have had a pen. Mitoma taken down for a pen, not given.

What’s the **** point if that’s the standard of officiating?

thebaz

They wont get rid of VAR, but football would be much more enjoyable if they did.

Necro

The technology for VAR is fine it's just the eejits running it being the problem. So different game, same story as before. The refs in the PL are terrible, and thus you could give them an as of yet undeveloped AI system that could logically calculate the correct call for every situation known to man as per the rules and give them that in less than a second... And they'd still get it wrong.

This weekend the team to feel (rightfully) wronged is Brighton. Next week it will be Everton, or Wolves or Bournemouth. It'll keep happening until they address the route cause of the terrible standard of refs in the PL.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120456587#Comment_120456587

It was always going to come down to humans and interpretation same as before VAR. All it's done is sucked the joy out of a goal because now you can't celebrate till VAR says so.

tayto lover

There should be an investigation into how that game was handled yesterday. Absolute disgrace.

y0ssar1an22

thank god for that. i'm sure brigton are happy:

The PGMOL has admitted a mistake was made by the match officials and VAR when not awarding a penalty to Brighton in Sunday's Premier League game against Tottenham.

The PGMOL has apologised for Brighton for not awarding them the penalty when Mitoma was fouled - this is the third apology Brighton have been given by PGMOL this season for decisions made on the field.

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120457035#Comment_120457035

How far up the table do these apologies move them?

It is a Dunne Deal

There's just no consistency to how VAR is applied they took 6 minutes to decide on a penalty for Brentford today (clear and obvious eh?) Yet they barely looked at an obvious penalty for Brighton it's just mind boggling.

We need to hear the discussions between VAR and refs in real time no good this nonsense of PGMOL coming out with an excuse or an apology after the game. If there's nothing to hide let us hear it.