Orange order/Linfield FC

Odhinn

Anyone have a link for the video?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155881#Comment_119155881

Wait until ya hear some of their other songs,such as 'the famine song',or the timeless classic 'the billy boys' featuring such aspirations as being upto their knees in fenian blood

Noone should be overly suprised by this,theres a reason people object to em marching outside their homes

bucketybuck

So many people responding to the troll.

Anybody from the north knows exactly what the orange order is and so won't be one bit surprised by any of this. Their only regret is that it went viral, no doubt they will be more careful going forward.

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155889#Comment_119155889

Sinn Fein continue to glorify those who murdered during the Troubles.

Sinn Fein continue to play dumb about their knowledge of what happened in notorious post-Troubles crimes such as the murders of Robert McCartney and Paul Quinn and the Northern Bank robbery.

Sinn Fein continue to fail female victims of sexual violence at the hands of the IRA. They and their supporters treat them as a pesky inconvenience. A bit like Michaela McAreavey's murderer treated her.

Sinn Fein now threatens the freedom of the press in this state through the use of frivolous lawsuits. These are designed squarely to silence the press. That's a technique they've copied from the likes of Arron Banks. It's Viktor Orban stuff.

Sinn Fein continues to treat the public like idiots by peddling a bunch of Trump style easy answers. Polltics by soundbyte, not policy. It is not a serious political party.

Sinn Fein continues to agitate for a border poll it knows it hasn't a hope of winning, a border poll which will hasten a return to violence. The DUP and Loyalists are pure extremists as they've shown yet again over the protocol.

Sinn Fein are no different and Republicans in a wider sense are certainly no different as we saw when Lyra McKee was murdered.

Go back to the video. What was chanted about the McAreaveys was abhorrent. Other stuff Loyalists chant is abhorrent. And extremists on the other side sing similar stuff about "themmuns" all the time as well.

NI should ditch SF and the DUP. The SDLP, Alliance, Greens, moderate Unionists, these are the only people working towards constructive politics up there.

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155915#Comment_119155915

I know all about them. Your problem is that people like you simply cannot conceive of anybody who despises "their" extremists and despises "our" extremists.

To the likes of you and others here, if you're against SF and the IRA, that somehow automatically makes you a DUP supporter.

Develop your brain into something other than something which runs according to dumb binary code.

Sweetemotion

And to think, I got thread banned for one post about Biden in the Trump thread.

FrancieBrady

The PSNI know what happened to Paul Quinn and Robert McCartney in graphic detail and they know who was responsibe - how could they say the IRA was not involved if they didn't?

The rest of your stuff is the usual nonsense. SF make no secret of their desire for a UI and the GFA legitimises that if you hadn't noticed. Is it extremist?

You end with the usual patronising 'I know better than you and you should vote for who I say' bull, that we are used to on here.

The thread is about sectarian chanting not your boogeymen and women.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155889#Comment_119155889

In fairness SF et al. don't need an extremist policy at the moment. Just sit back and watch them 'uns implode. (Although, rightly or wrongly, is it extremist to fight back with bomb and bullet when one is being burned out of one's home?)

My first reaction earlier was "I bet it's not even funny". I looked it up and yeah, there isn't even an attempt at a joke in it.

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155902#Comment_119155902

The Orangemen who sung that song are scumbags.

The point is that posters here are trying to paint them as some unique evil when the other extreme is just as bad about singing sick, twisted songs.

The point was made by another poster that Republicans were actually delighted this video emerged because that's what they're most interested in - painting the other side as a uniquely depraved evil.

But this stuff cuts both ways.

Two sides of the same coin.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155939#Comment_119155939

Wait until you see, these guys will have pics of her on bonfires in defiance of decency.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155989#Comment_119155989

If this cuts both ways,show an example of a ordinary catholic crowd singing,celebrating murder of an innocent protestant.....i know of two other songs doing rounds about murdered catholics,not related to troubles

Its easy enough to wash your hands and sneer looking in,and proclaim,they all the same.....when its increasingly evident its simply not the case....looks to me,your deflecting to nonsense,to try defend unionism and attempting (poorly) to smear those who have zero to do with this

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155978#Comment_119155978

Ah yeah, blame the PSNI. Everybody knows it was the IRA who carried out those crimes and SF have been ultra-defensive and evasive ever since both of them, and the Northern Bank robbery.

And anybody who ever raises these crimes is accused of being a conspiracist by SF bots.

SF have some neck to bring up anything that ever happened in the past as regards any other political party when they stonewall on the literal skeletons in their own closet.

There isn't a hope of a border poll being passed in the near to medium term.

SF know this full well. Everybody knows it. And SF only want trouble by constantly agitating for one.

realdanbreen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156009#Comment_119156009

Exactly. This guy is a low life bollix who has deliberately tried to derail a thread about the orangemen who engaged in this chanting and singing. I'm beginning to wonder if he once worked in the Sindo and was fond of using twitter.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156010#Comment_119156010

Well, tough luck for you. 'Everybody' does not include the PSNI, Gardai and the body they advised, the IMC, who say the IRA was not involved.

Go start a thread on it. It has zero to do with this one.

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156009#Comment_119156009

The Lord Mountbatten chant.

The "I hope you die your sleep Nacho Novo" one, a Rangers player so clearly identified with "their side".

"England you're a monster" in Roll Of Honour.

"And the natural gas will burn your ass, and blow you all to hell" in Rock On Rockall by The Wolfe Tones.

When Sinn Fein's Barry McElduff posed with a loaf of Kingsmills bread he knew exactly what he was doing and received wide apologism from the online Republican community before bowing to the inevitable and resigning.

Any number of pro-IRA songs are as toxic as the other sides' shlt.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156033#Comment_119156033

So thats no actual video,nor evidence of a ordinary group of catholics singing songs celebrating murder of any innocent protestant

Glad we cleared this up

realdanbreen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156033#Comment_119156033

Grow up! You're acting like the pro Russian apologists who also say of the war in Ukraine that there are two sides involved.

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156032#Comment_119156032

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/profile-of-gerard-jock-davison-the-ira-boss-who-ordered-the-brutal-killing-of-robert-mccartney-31197070.html

You're spectacularly naive or more likely have a neck like a jockey's bollocks if you believe the South Armagh Ra didn't murder Paul Quinn. Quinn didn't answer to the local Ra and that's why he was murdered. SF people are clearly of the opinion that because Quinn wasn't such a nice person that he deserved to be tortured to death.

No he didn't.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/sinn-fein-politician-who-called-25710506

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156054#Comment_119156054

Your glib reaction here to a litany of **** from "our side" shows you are no better than any moron from the "other side" who would defend those who sang about the McAreaveys.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156077#Comment_119156077

See the monitoring body responsible assessment. The IRA was not involved. End of. If you have different info take it to them.

Otherwise this is off topic.

Your hideous attempt to dilute this is just that, hideous. Yes there are some on the 'other' side who have done wrong, but that does NOT dilute this and shouldn't.

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156071#Comment_119156071

Grow up and use your brain. The NI conflict is not remotely analogous to what Russia is inflicting on Ukraine and it's an insult to Ukraine for you to pretend it is.

Ironically enough there's a sizeable enough minority within Irish Republicanism which is deeply sympathetic to Russian imperialism, in a similar manner to how your hero Dan Breen idolised the Nazis.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156082#Comment_119156082

It is not a glib responce,yous are proclaiming both as equal/bad as each other

When asked for simple evidence of same occuring,regarding catholics celebrating murder of innocent protestants yous started ranting and have thus far been unable to do so,

labeling others position as shallow/conceited,because your simply unable to support your own repeated assertions,is something you should perhaps take time to reflect upon

I dont think the mcareevy song is particularly bad (obvious family distress aside),there is much much worse sung and conduct around the orange order,it merly confirms what many suspect of em.....it would be akin to being shocked of the kkk made up a song about george flyod

realdanbreen

pretending that you care one bit about the the McAreaveys shows that you are not just a **** stirrer but a slimeball as well.

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155969#Comment_119155969

Yeah but this stuff is routinely tolerated on boards. God knows why!?

Junkyard Tom

We need to be well equipped to deal with this element of Unionism in a United Ireland. Internal security will need to be seriously beefed up and a policy of containment, in their own UVF-controlled ****-holes, should be robustly pursued. These people will seek to cause maximum chaos should they find themselves in a United Ireland and that will need to be countered with zero tolerance.

almostover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156092#Comment_119156092

Lad you've lost the plot. I've never voted for SF in my life and never will but you must have to admit that sectarian harted is far more prevalent on the loyalist side. We're facing into the 'Glorious 12th' celebrations soon enough. Where Loyalists celebrate their British heritage by burning pallets with Irish flags on and effigies of various Irish people. In the same way that the Orange Order were celebrating their Britishness and Protestantism by singing songs about a woman who was murdered on her honeymoon whilst sitting sipping warm cans of larger at cheap sh*tty picnic tables in a hall decorated with cheap union jack bunting and tapestries of weird old Dutch dudes. Loyalism should be mocked and denigrated, it's a joke.

FYI, the IRA decommissioned over 20 years ago and SF are committed to the Good Friday agreement. The political representatives of Loyalism however.........DUP & TUV.

@John Bell and @Andrew McDade - what kind of d1cks are you?

John Cooper Clarke says it better than I ever could....and he's a Brit- what you think of that eh? One of your own. maybe this is language you'll understand.

Like a Night Club in the morning, you’re the bitter end

Like a recently disinfected ****-house, you’re clean round the bend 

You give me the horrors

Too bad to be true 

All of my tomorrow’s

Are lousy coz of you 

You put the Shat in Shatter

Put the Pain in Spain

Your germs are splattered about

Your face is just a stain

You’re certainly no raver, commonly known as a drag

Do us all a favour, here… wear this polythene bag

You’re like a dose of scabies

I’ve got you under my skin

You make life a fairy tale… Grimm!

People mention murder, the moment you arrive

I’d consider killing you if I thought you were alive

You’ve got this slippery quality

It makes me think of phlegm

And a dual personality

I hate both of them

Your bad breath, vamps disease, destruction, and decay

Please, please, please, please, take yourself away

Like a death a birthday party

You ruin all the fun

Like a sucked and spat our smartie

you’re no use to anyone

Like the shadow of the guillotine

On a dead consumptive’s face

Speaking as an outsider

What do you think of the human race

You went to a progressive psychiatrist

He recommended suicide…

Before scratching your bad name off his list

And pointing the way outside

You hear laughter breaking through, it makes you want to fart

You’re heading for a breakdown

Better pull yourself apart

Your dirty name gets passed about when something goes amiss

Your attitudes are platitudes

Just make me wanna piss

What kind of creature bore you

Was is some kind of bat

They can’t find a good word for you

But I can…

TWAT

Oh yeah and, your little Orange club doesn't want you either:

A Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland spokesperson said: “The behaviour of those involved and their actions have no place in our society..."

So essentially, fck off out of our society please.

Thanks!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156133#Comment_119156133

They were only singing a song,a distasteful one,but a song nonetheless

Its education and mixing from a young age will finish this bigotry....well established anti-discrimination laws will protect innocents,but i dont think mass arrests/zero tolerence for someone holding distasteful beliefs is any better than special powers act 1923 in the north......

oppression never solves any of society ills,its reach out and education will....20 odd years ago it took 9/11 to dislodge holycross protests from world news,now that area of belfast has a sf mp (elected with cross community argreement).....change is possible,even worst bigot can change,ian paisley went onto form a close friendship with martin mcguinness

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156082#Comment_119156082

Don't worry, your posts tell us all about what you are.

AyeGer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156165#Comment_119156165

Mixing? Maybe maybe not. Murdering scumbag Billy Wright used to play Hurley when he was a kid.

In a statement issued through the PA news agency, John Bell and Andrew McDade said their part in the video was a matter of “deep shame and regret”.They described the chant as “offensive, vile and wholly abhorrent” and said the video was not reflective of who they are or “the values of the loyal orders and the wider unionist and loyalist community”. They said friends and family had been subjected to online threats and abuse as a result of their “unacceptable actions”.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/03/two-men-apologise-for-mockery-of-northern-irish-teacher-michaela-mcareavey

I wonder what their stance is on gay cake? I mean, are Unionists and Loyalists communities in favour of gay cake? This is important to me because i need to understand "the values of the loyal orders" in order to understand their statement. If they're not in favour of gay cake, then really, their apologies are meaningless for me.

So , John Bell and Andrew McDade- since you like singing....this one's for you.....

john Bell and Andrew Mcdade up a tree- K.I.S.S.I.N.G

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155867#Comment_119155867

nothing to do with sinn fein ergo sinn fein are not extremists as stated.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156282#Comment_119156282

They issued their statement through Jamie Bryson's PR agency.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156291#Comment_119156291

Yeah tell me more about this agency Francie- it's late and I'm not in the mood to google- but, as I was refreshing the page, I was reading some of the "press statements" "on behalf of both" and I thought- that's awfully strange, that the two guys would collaborate with a press agency to issue a PR statement- and then I just saw your post- please educate me- is this an Orange Order press agency?

I've just googled Jamie Bryson- a former Linfield FC former player, a loyalist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Bryson

Riiiiggghhttt- so there goes any credibility on the apology front- they're still scum bags and always will be-

john Bell and Andrew Mcdade up a tree- K.I.S.S.I.N.G

Brucie Bonus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155136#Comment_119155136

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155713#Comment_119155713

So you both want to use the disgusting behaviour and disrespect of a dead woman so you can have a pop for your own agendas. You're both nearly as bad.

This is the same crowd who were angry about a cartoon last week?

They're in a death spiral. No love for the land so now that their union is under threat, they're lashing out. Riots etc. and all the politics around the protocol. You'd almost feel sorry for them. The usual suspects on here defending the indefensible while humming along to the video.

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156107#Comment_119156107

You don't give one **** about the McAreaveys. All you care about is stirring up **** in the North in the hope of a return to violence which will apparently bring about a "glorious United Ireland".

Plenty like you out there as well, several of them posting in this thread.

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156288#Comment_119156288

Oh well Sinn Fein bot says Sinn Fein had nothing to do with the IRA, that's that settled then, lol.

Snooker Loopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156142#Comment_119156142

Loyalism should be mocked and denigrated and so should NI Irish Republicanism.

Both are forces of murder and nihilism.

Hangdogroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119153628#Comment_119153628

Whataboutery much?

sam t smith

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156376#Comment_119156376

Bullshit. As well you know.

A poster claimed it was ‘one side’ that is up to no good. I showed otherwise.

If you don’t like that, jog on.

Your faux outrage is laughable. If I recall correctly you were making a joke about ‘no paedos and no blacks’ yesterday on another thread.

FrancieBrady

Out of respect this thread should be closed.

A victim not even involved in the conflict/war being used again to vent hate. Almost as bad as those in the original video’s use of her. Appalling really.

sam t smith

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156847#Comment_119156847

Strange post. You were in the thick of things yesterday.

malk518

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119155630#Comment_119155630

Boards has an anti SF agenda. For example you can say Sinnerbot and not be band but try that with the other party names and you will be band.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156857#Comment_119156857

I corrected somebody on Yeats, and their interpretation of what has happened since the GFA was signed.

Hardly 'in the thick' of using a victim (not even associated with the conflict/war) to score points.

I feel dirty even participating in this. Have at it.

sam t smith

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119156949#Comment_119156949

One example of your posts from yesterday:

”Wait until you see, these guys will have pics of her on bonfires in defiance of decency.”

MakersMark

Why anyone wants a united Ireland is beyond me.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119157001#Comment_119157001

I often wonder if that's why some of these posters are on boards.ie Turn people off the idea every bit possible.