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Bullying and scam-artistry, is learning to manage these the basis of good leadership in society?

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    #32
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119151963#Comment_119151963

    In all fairness at the very crux of their argument it holds merit. Leaders like Stalin, hitler, amin and putin must have bullied or scammed their followers into tacit agreement with their policies and actions.

    However the tag of a bully belittles what they were. Also not all leaders are dangerous. Other than that I’m at a loss!



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    #33
    dogbert27
    Registered Users Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119151811#Comment_119151811

    I agree on the narcissistic idiots running around going "I'm a leader..." being fed from the likes of Simon Sinek who started of unsurprisingly in marketing.

    He's created this myth and developed a cult like following with his books Leaders eat last and Start with why.

    Everybody has to find their why bullsxxt and you don't have to be have a title of leader to be a leader.



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    #34
    Jequ0n
    Registered Users Posts: 6,150 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119151963#Comment_119151963

    Their OPs never make much sense, so this one is no difference.



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    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119151972#Comment_119151972

    Why>? Hitler tapped into the bitterness over the Treaty of Versailles and the historical racial superiority common among German people (and to be fair it was a common enough belief in other empires). Sure, he intimidated opponents through the use of the Brownshirts, but he gained enormous support by using conditions already existing and giving people what they wanted. Stalin worked his way up through the ranks of communism, a system that was already brutal and manipulative before he gained power, and then, used the conditioning already present in society (from Tzarist days) to rule over everyone. He could have done it all without his brutal paranoia, as other communist leaders have shown. Putin sold the idea of a powerful and unified Russia to everyone, and the need for reunification of former Soviet territories... which is quite reasonable from a Russian pov. There's always been a vein of superiority when it comes to Russians and he used that.

    Oh, Bullying and lying are definitely present in all such leadership styles, but it was the national culture in each instance, along with the general population who allowed them to behave that way.



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