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Now would be a good time to do away with airport security theatre

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  • 30-05-2022 1:29pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭


    Starting with the 100ml liquids codology, if they simply got rid of those rules now the queues would be significantly reduced. The threat of Islamic terrorism has surely subsided at this stage. I, for one would welcome a return to the friendlier, more relaxed days of pre-9/11 air travel and this is a great opportunity to bring it in.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,262 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Any airport that has a CT (computer tomography) scanner already doesn't require this check. Shannon airport has it, not sure why Dublin doesn't



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,986 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    In Shannon airport, you no longer have to take your liquids or electronic devices out of your bag. New scanners, apparently.

    Also helps that there's fúck all flights out of it, the place is a ghost town, and no gate is more than a 2 minute walk from security. Makes flying on one of the few available ones a joy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Feisar


    No but a simple IQ test would aid things greatly. Fukcn numpties can't sort their lives out.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,937 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    Or a queue for people who know what they're doing. Travelling alone. No luggage. No nonsense. No last minute realising you have Dynamite, Petrol and six guns in your back pockets. I fly almost weekly and I see so many delays because of people's own choices. Very frustrating for the staff I'd imagine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    I'm sure Irish airports would have no issues relaxing a bit. The countries we fly too however would have a big problem I would imagine. Dublin Airport had something like 7 safety breaches in the last EU audit.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,925 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Why has Dublin not got the CT scanning equipment yet? Seems to me that they are way behind the curve and are contributing to their own disaster in that airport. It would be a help surely? I've often wondered why it is necessary to remove liquids when they appear to go through the same old fashioned scanner anyway.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,925 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    And another thing, instead of a new runway they should have another airport for cross channel flights only for example. Feck sake Belfast has TWO airports and a tiny population.



  • Registered Users Posts: 81,989 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    The option of a q with a €100 fine for any alarm going off would make life much easier for the rest of us.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    What would the payoff for a second airport be though? Belfast's 2 airports combined only handle about a quarter of Dublin's passenger numbers.

    That's before we even start on the regional TDs who'd have an aneurysm at the thought of a 2nd Dublin airport. As it stands they feel Dublin is "stealing" passengers who should be going to other airports even if they don't want to.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,094 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    The threat of Islamic terrorism hasn’t subsided. Technology, intelligence and equipment such as ETD scanners and better X-ray tech and rules has simply put this Islamic terrorist or any terrorist at a major disadvantage…threat and intent still exists.

    Weapons or items that can be used as weapons are caught on a daily basis in Dublin…. Debunking your thought that it is ‘security theatre’… it most certainly isn’t. Knuckle dusters and meat cleavers have been items which have been successfully been caught by the X-ray machines at Dublin since international travel returned, that’s according to the DAA. They fill 15 wheelie bins worth of prohibited items daily…. My guess that’s at least half a tonne of prohibited items in a 24 hour period.

    also the rules are not the Irish government’s they are EU rules..



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    its just cork theyre strealing passengers from really



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That's pretty warped logic right there.

    "The threat of Islamic extremism is now low because airport protection is so high, so now is the optimum time to make airport protection low so that the threat of Islamic extremism remains low".



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Most of the extremists got blown to pieces in Syria. ISIS is after getting a right pummeling. We don't see many non-airport attacks in De West either so it's not the airports that are after quelling the terrorists



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    The problem is that once the guard is lifted, and some form of successful attack is launched via an airport, the restrictions would come back just as fast - if not worse.

    It just wouldn't work. For just a short-term relief, is it really worth it?

    Compromising airport security is not a great way of promoting air travel going forward.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,094 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    It’s a pain in the arse but I’d rather security overkill as opposed to terrorist kill..



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    That attack might never arrive. Most countries with or without increased security have never been attacked. Covid isn't gone either but the restrictions are, at some point you just need to put the fear behind you



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    courtesy of the Zucker Brothers...




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,645 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Islam has grown in the last 20 years and continued to return to a purer form across the world.


    Only if security is maintained in other ways



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭buried


    Now would be a good time to do away with the current minister for transport. Because here you see the result. But no, hey ho, enjoy another 3 years of this mess.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious




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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,347 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭buried


    It's no surprise that the biggest airport in the country is in such a shambles when the minister in charge of it ultimately only wants ordinary people to utilise modes of transport that basically involve buses, bikes and shoes. I mean, this is what you are dealing with so this is what you get. Irish people need to look at far more closely who is ultimately responsible for the various facets and departments of how our country is actually run and what those peoples ideologies are. If you keep voting for these nutjobs you can't really complain when they start to implement their nutjob policies. Either get on board with it or don't vote for it, choice is yours.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,094 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    100%.. a minister for transport who basically wants to curtail it.

    you wouldn’t have a minister for sport who doesn’t like sport or a minister for health who wanted to encourage smoking….so the Ryan appointment is one of the most bizarre and ineffective ones of all time… pandering, piss weak leadership and decision making by MM to award this portfolio to him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    After flying from Dublin & Stansted last week I think I'll go by train & ferry to Rosslare during the summer. Having to get to an airport 4 hours before departure is too much hassle. So much for flying being quick & convenient LOL!



  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭BurgerFace


    The threat of Islamic terrorism was never there to begin with. Complete bolloxology.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,695 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,645 ✭✭✭✭Danzy




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭monkeybutter




  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭BurgerFace


    Oh, bollocks man. There is no threat and there never was. If there is or was such a threat to airports then why haven't these mythical terrorists conducted an attack on a place with no scanners or staff or x-ray machines? And to those numpties who nod like zombies and agree with these farcical security measures, explain to me how you can make a concoction that would bring down a plane out of products like shampoo or toothpaste? Seems 100ml is the limit because a larger quantity of brylcream will allow you to make a bomb. But you're allowed to have 2 x 100ml containers of the same substance. Also if you have a 200ml container that's 1/4 full then that's not allowed. Mention this to the drones who blindly agree to these inane measures and they will tie their arses in knots trying to attach some logic to the whole farce.



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