Irish Times website no longer allowing comments

Hotblack Desiato

It's not censorship no matter how many times you say it is.

Not having a comment facility is a commercial decision and the probable reasons for this decision have been pointed out several times.

You can publish whatever you want yourself, as I pointed out. You have no right to insist that anyone else publish your content on your behalf. If you are not prepared to put your money where your mouth is then you have to accept that others will have editorial control over what they choose to publish, or not.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121149746#Comment_121149746

It's a word. It's not the word however. And your continued dismissal of the existing Right to Reply is only further suggestion you are determined to bang the censorship drum, logic be damned. Maybe you should email the Letters section and see what happens.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121149746#Comment_121149746

That's a customer service problem not a censorship problem.

Regards...jmcc

Caquas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121152462#Comment_121152462

It’s both.

The IT has lost touch with its readers and doesn’t want subscribers’ online reactions criticising its editorial line.

Its campaign against fee-paying schools is just the latest move guaranteed to irritate its core readership. More fundamentally, the IT continues to insist on increased public expenditure in every direction and speaks of tax cuts as a moral failure although the Government aims to spend 100,000,000,000 Euro a year (yeah, €20,000 a year for everyone in the country by 2025) while hitting ordinary workers with over 50% tax on hard-earned income. I could go on….

It is also a form of censorship. Not the worst type by any means but censorship none the less (combined with a phony promise to make amends). I will ignore the Humpty-Dumptys here telling me that “censorship” means exactly what they want it to mean i.e. not something the IT can do.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121153964#Comment_121153964

I could go on….

Mod: Please don't!

If you don't like what you're being told censorship is then that's for you to deal with but I'm ending this part of the discussion now. I guess in a way, I'm censoring this nonsense!

As for your use of "Humpty-Dumptys", play the ball and not the man if you wish to continue posting in this forum. I'd advise having a look at the POLITICS CHARTER AND GUIDELINES again!

Seth Brundle

Mod: @Caquas do not post in this thread again for arguing with a mod decision in a now deleted post

Seth Brundle

Moved to the News & Media forum - please note the FORUM CHARTER: Read before posting

plodder

Is this a first for the Irish Times, using irony in an editorial?

The editorial was referring to criticism of a High Court judge for using contemporary internet tropes in his judgement instead of exclusively plain language. It states whimsically that "Readability should of course have no place in a court judgment" in reality presumably approving of the lighthearted nature of the judgement.

Also ironically though, they may have unwittingly argued against the point they were making by missing one of the cultural references that the Court of Appeal was complaining about.

References to “gaslighting” and walking “into Mordor” meant the judgment could “only be understood by reference to literary tropes which may or may not be understood by a reader”.

The reference was not "walking into Mordor" or even just "into Mordor". It was "One does not simply walk into Mordor" which is a direct quote from The Lord of the Rings, but has since spawned a family of memes that begin with the phrase "One does not simply …"

That they seem to have missed that suggests to me that maybe the appeal court judge was right and Internet memes, though amusing, don't qualify as plain language, and can easily be misinterpreted or not understood by a significant number of readers.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/editorials/2024/09/27/the-irish-times-view-on-legal-language-judging-with-a-sense-of-style/

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122664764#Comment_122664764

Amazing! People still read the Irish Times editorials and comment on them. :) A long time ago, the IT operated in a 'one to many' model of public discussion where feedback was limited to the letters page. With the advent of the Web and latterly Social Media, the public discussion model changed to a 'many to many' one and the opinions of the IT are no longer a major focus of those public discussions. The closure of the Irish Times online comments means that people have to comment elsewhere.

Regards…jmcc

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