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Willow - Disney+



  • Registered Users Posts: 57,638 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭ FunLover18

    Despite having rewatched the movie recently and realising it isn't at all as good as I remember, I'm still very much looking forward to it. That music 👌

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭ Slydice

    New to me. Have I missed something from the 80s?!?

  • Registered Users Posts: 57,638 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson

    Joanne Whalley is there I wonder will Val have some sort of cameo.

    I know he has one in Top Gun.

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    I had such a crush on joanne whalley when i was younger

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  • Registered Users Posts: 57,638 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson

  • Registered Users Posts: 78,737 ✭✭✭✭ JP Liz V1

    I love the film

  • Registered Users Posts: 57,638 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson

    Starts tomorrow

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭ mrcheez

    Just saw the first episode there.

    It's actually pretty good... some cringe characters/moments, but not so much that it's unwatchable, and they're cheeky in such a way that Madmartigan was so it sorta works.

    Some good casting to reintroduce original actors.

    Felt a bit Lord of the Rings actually... looking forward to seeing how episode 2 works.

  • Registered Users Posts: 57,638 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson

    The first episode was good and there are some really funny scenes in the second episode.

    I'll stick with it anyway

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭ mrcheez

    Lots of people online complaining about

    the girls kissing


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭ PhiloCypher

    Remember before the culture wars made everything toxic the same bros , would be

    " do you think they'll kiss ? , I hope they kiss, that would be soooooo Hawt."

    Now all they do is cry **** over every little Peck (so to speak 😋)

  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭ setanta1000

    In my humble opinion this is just awful stuff; dire acting, woeful dialogue, plastic sets, some very dodgy editing and far too much exposition needed to explain what the hell is going on.

    I'm sure Derek Warwick is a lovely guy but he's delivering his lines like he's seeing them for the first time and hasn't figured how he should be acting as well as saying them....but he's probably the best of the cast.

    I have no issues with the "woke" agenda and I think we need more non standard relationships on TV to make it more acceptable culturally but they are doing the "cause" a serious injustice by wrapping it up in such poor surroundings.

    The only one who was redeeming in any way was the fantastically handsome Bryk who managed to play the whole thing for laughs (I get that this was his character but at least he was funny...ish).

    I predict that there will NOT be a Season 2....


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭ mrcheez

    I was curious how well it plays with the original flick, and honestly (apart from the excellent score on the film) the dialog and acting is pretty much 1:1 and they both seem on par.

    The original film was never really that serious. It was never a Lord of the Rings for example.

    So it does seem to maintain the same rather silly humorous dialog/acting that was in the original and fits in fairly well.

    It's worth re-watching the original flick as they've updated it to 4K.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭ FunLover18

    Basically what MrCheez said, all of your complaints could be levelled at the movie. I think this is slightly better because the budget is clearly better. Davis has never been a fantastic actor. I think one of the reasons there's so much explanation is because they're trying to catch people up on the film as well as catch them up on this fantastical world that the audience has no reference for. There is no book with a map at the front, this is completely original and I think they've created new stuff again that wasn't even in the film.

    I'm not defending it btw but I'm probably enjoying it a bit more than you.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭ mrcheez

    I'm wondering if they're going to say "Peck"... might be a bit too offensive these days 🤣

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭ FunLover18

    Is it just me or is the lighting terrible? I have my laptop set to the brightest setting and I'm still struggling to make out what the hell is going on at times.

    Thought the costume design on the Hannah Waddingham character and her partner was awful, they looked far too contemporary. Really took me out of the scene.

  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭ Full_Circle_81

    I'm actually finding the mix of accents to be really distracting (although I think the movie had a mix of British and American as well). In particular, I'm a little baffled at the main character "Dove" affecting an American accent, when keeping her regular British accent would have made no difference whatsoever. Her American twang is awful.

    I've only watched the first two episodes so far, and I'd say its just decent. While the budget may be higher here, the direction and editing is very poor compared to the movie, although I find a lot of Disney tv shows have shocking dreadful editing anyway. Dialogue/acting is fine though, as the movie was pretty tongue-in-cheek/self-aware itself. The use of modern songs over the credits is a little jarring though.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭ mrcheez

    Warwick Davis fluctuated between British and American constantly in the Willow flick too.. ironically this annoying trait being carried into the series keeps the authenticity (for better or worse!) 🤣

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭ mrcheez

    Yeah so Episode 4 wasn't great/boring and the constant one-liners are starting to grate with me too. The zoomer agenda stuff is also repeated a bit incessantly, plus the main cast constantly making modern quips.

    Won't surprise me if they pull out their mobile phones in the next one.

    And then there's this...

    Surely if denim is available in the world, everyone would be wearing it? :)

    So .. it started out ok.. but it's starting to look a bit like Xena Warrior Princess budget-wise, despite some elements of quality effects sparingly tossed in.

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,350 Mod ✭✭✭✭ johnnyskeleton

    I'm a bit confused as to what they are trying to achieve with this. Is it supposed to be high fantasy? Is it a teen drama / harry potter style show? Is it a quippy parody of the modern world? It's unclear to me because it has elements of all of these things and seems unwilling to commit to any one for more than 2-3 mins.

    Amar Chada-Patel is great in it. He is serious when he needs to be serious, and whimsical or cynical at other times. This suits the character of a world weary and untrustworthy adventurer. But Ruby Cruz is also going for the cynical and quippy performance, which doesn't fit her character of a sheltered royal. Warrick Davis should not be in this as much as he is. His delivery of lines is flat and rushed. Which is a shame - if he's not up for it, he could have been in one scene and sent them on their way and it would be much better. I do not know whether these problems are due to the actors themselves or to the way that they are directed.

    There are also some bad editing issues. Two people will be mid conversation and it will cut to them speaking to other people. A lot of the action happens off screen, from a far away angle or with lots of darkness/smoke to hide what is happening. Then they have dialogue explaining what happened which violates the cardinal rule of writing - show don't tell. And modern music shoehorned in seems like its copying guardians of the galaxy without understanding that the music in gotg was imbedded into the story.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭ mrcheez

    What was the thing Boorman was accusing Kit of stealing from him in Episode 4? Was it the armour power thing?

    But then he suddenly had that in the final scene, and no explanation of why he thought he lost it, or how he found it again?

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭ FunLover18

    In the most recent episode Elora is wearing a coat with zips 🙄

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭ mrcheez

    Elora's hair has turned red (again)?! Not just the roots, as in the full length of hair changed from blonde to red in, what, a day ?

    EDIT: ok so I read up a bit.. apparently the "magick" is turning it back to the original red 🙄

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭ Sudden Valley

    Ha yeah the hair colour change was weird as was coat, as was the old man and the sea scenes. Willow is like a b-movie written by someone hugh on drugs with a huge budget any chance that Val Kilmer will appear at all?

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭ mrcheez

    "If Ed Wood did a Disney series..."

    Unfortunately there won't be a Val Kilmer appearance (unless possibly digital)

    Very sad 😪

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭ Sudden Valley

    Yes very sad. I thought he looked slightly better in Top gun than he did in that photo so hopefully he recovers over time. I would hate if they kill hm off offscreen though to be honest i think they have given the Boorman character most of his traits.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭ FunLover18

    I think he has one speaking line in TG Maverick and it was AI generated. We hear Mad Martigan's voice in this, calling to Kit, I believe it is the voice of Kilmer's son.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,538 ✭✭✭✭ AMKC

    I really enjoyed episode 8 of this. Yes I agree with come above that some of the episodes were very badly lit and it was hard to see what was going on some of the clothes looked out of place and that Warwick seemed to just be phoning his performances in but 8 is a much better episode its like they all finally realised what was going in and there parts in it and started to act better too.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,890 ✭✭✭✭ mrcheez

    The first and last episodes were probably the best alright.