Summer transfer thread 2022

ArtyM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119299219#Comment_119299219

Everytime I hear his name, a little voice in my head adds the word Amen

Cookiemunster

Haller from Ajax to Dortmund finally confirmed. €30m, 4 year contract.

Agent Coulson

Ajax being gutted.

Hopefully they can find a few more gems from there underage ranks.

DM_7

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119299356#Comment_119299356

Bergwijn to Ajax looks to be on and also return of Brobbey from RB Leipzig. With all the transfer receipts they should be able to recruit more players like that.

Mr.Nice Guy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119299236#Comment_119299236

It will be a massive headache for the next manager if/when Ten Hag flops, especially since the Glazers don't like to cut their losses the way a Chelsea or Madrid would.

DM_7

Kahn re Ronaldo

https://twitter.com/FrankLinkesch/status/1544710593181093888?t=ulPVXnEvFnVt8iXQginufQ&s=19

"A transfer would not fit our philosophy".

DM_7

Sterling to Chelsea looking likely:

https://twitter.com/TelegraphDucker/status/1544721725782462465?t=XfYWFqwi7vy-X9i1QOO3Uw&s=19

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119299701#Comment_119299701

How will 3 or 4 players be a massive headache? I mean no matter who came in they'd have signed players that the next manager may not want. That's what happens everywhere. ETH will want rid of a lot of players he's inherited.

But when it comes to ETHs signings there's actually only one who's been signed. A 22 year old cheap back up left back.

Eriksen will be a free transfer when he signs. And to say a player who spent the last decade at Spurs and Inter is signed because he once played for Ajax years before ETH took the job is ridiculous.

There is no risk to signing either of these.

Fitz*

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119299866#Comment_119299866

I don't think clubs really bid for players anymore, unless there is some sort of indication from the player of an openness to transfer first. Probably done through intermediaries rather than directly.

Which isn't really the 'fair' or correct way of doing things tbf, but it's another facet of modern football.

Mr.Nice Guy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119299938#Comment_119299938

Ten Hag is attempting to turn his new club into a hybrid version of his old one. That's fine if it works; if it doesn't, it's going to be a headache for his successor who presumably won't want Ajax 2.0 as his team. Not likely that the Glazers - who only just got rid of Mata, and still have Jones and Bailly on their books at this point - are going to be keen on an overhaul of this lot if a new manager didn't fancy them.

El Gato De Negocios

Sterling at £45m is a good investment, cracking player and still only 27. LFC, City, Spurs and Chelsea should be the top 4 with City favourites for another title.

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300136#Comment_119300136

Jones and Bailly are still on the books because because of the ridiculous contracts given to them by Woodward means that nobody else is willing to pay their wages. Mata was a squad filler who was only on a 1 year deal.

It's obvious from Pereira finally being sold that things are taking a different direction now that Woodwards gone.

And I've no idea how you can say that ETH is trying to turn Utd into a hybrid Ajax when firstly only one (non Ajax) player has actually been signed and secondly he's yet to actually send a team out onto the pitch.

DM_7

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300195#Comment_119300195

I am surprised at City's willingness to sell him, on one hand it reflects in their strength in the league that they are willing to sell, on the other they are helping a club that actually won the Champions League recently which is the trophy that City can't get just yet.

Chelsea needed to add another player with a good goal record since only Mount got double figures in the league.

Mr.Nice Guy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300347#Comment_119300347

Ten Hag wanted Malacia when he was at Ajax. He's seeking de Jong, Timber, Lisandro Martinez. He wants to give van de Beek another go. Eriksen too who knows the Ajax philosophy having been there as a youngster.

And if you think things are taking a different direction, you are in for a big disappointment. Woodward was awful but was a symptom of United's problems: the Glazers. As long as they are there, nothing will improve. Only a few weeks ago they took out £11m in dividends.

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300417#Comment_119300417

Of course things are going to take a different direction. That was the whole bloody point of bringing in ETH in the first place.

I've no idea though why you think that ETH is unique in wanting sign his own players. Literally every manager does it. And as I already said, every new manager, including him, inherits players he doesn't want.

Again though, 3 or 4 players isn't going to change the squad drastically and turn them into Ajax lite.

And there aren't many managers out there who wouldn't be happy to inherit Frenkie de Jong (if Utd manage to get him), so I don't see signing him as a risk and I already pointed out why Malacia and Eriksen aren't much of a risk either.

United should be straight on to Chelsea for whoever they can. Pulisic, Ziyech, Werner or whoever would improve the attacking options and should be available at decent prices.

DM_7

With Sterling on his way to Chelsea where would that leave Raphinha? Will they sign him also.

StringerBell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119299236#Comment_119299236

United get linked to about 200 players every window (no joke) and have a new Dutch manager. The stories write themselves 🤷🏻‍♂️

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300597#Comment_119300597

Doubtful at this point, it must be two weeks since Leeds accepted their bid and they still haven't agreed personal terms, by all reports it looks like he only wants Barca. Looks more likely he'll stay at Leeds till after the world cup anyways given Barca haven't a pot to piss in and can't match the Chelsea bid.

Mr.Nice Guy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300492#Comment_119300492

There won't be a different direction because the problem at the club is the ownership. It is the exact same as what John Delaney used to do at the FAI when the temperature increased: find a scapegoat, sack scapegoat, hire new manager to work within circus. Rinse and repeat.

It's not unique in wanting his own players. It is, however, unique for one of the biggest clubs in world football, who generate more money than most, to pin their hopes on talent largely associated with the Eredivisie. He wants players that fits his system? Grand - if it works. If it doesn't, the next coach has a bunch of players that were very much the brainchild of the last coach. That will be a problem since these owners don't like to spend money that they could be leeching away. New coach will be asked to make it work. All will become clear in good time.

Cookiemunster

You are technically correct to say that the Glazers don't like to spend money. They do however let the club spend its own money. A lot of money. £1bn in the 9 years since SAF retired. They spent £110m on Sancho and Varane only last summer FFS. And that was before Ronaldo returned on his ridiculous contract.

Money for transfers (or wages) is not and has not been the issue. How's it's been spent is. And Woodword was the biggest problem when it came to how it was spent.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300762#Comment_119300762

pjohnson

I'd be surprised if Raphinha doesn't sign for Chelsea. Lukaku is gone, Ziyech nearing a move to Milan and Werner also available to any bidders.

Leeds are also poised to sign Sinisterra to replace Raphinha so they seem to have moved on from him.

Mr.Nice Guy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300837#Comment_119300837

Now provide the figures for how much money they took out of the club. That is the problem. You're defending owners that ignored Mourinho's pleas to buy Alderweireld while giving him a summer window of Fred, Dalot and Lee Grant.

They'll be cajoled into splashing out on a flashy new signing every now and then in order to get the fans to put the green and yellow scarves away for a bit. They know it works so well.

NIMAN

This thread seems to be 95% about Man Utd transfer rumours.

StringerBell

There is only one club that generates the headlines and rumours to this kind of degree even in the shittiest period for 30 years 🤷🏻‍♂️ it's been common practice to link everyone to United for years because it garners interest.

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300902#Comment_119300902

I haven't defended anyone. The budget isn't the reason that Utd are doing so poorly. If there was £2bn spent, it would have been spent just as poorly.

The Glazers are nothing but parasites on the club and the neglect of the stadium and the training ground is on them. But Utd have one of the largest wage bills and highest transfer outgoings in world football. The transfer budget isn't the issue.

theoneeyedman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300933#Comment_119300933

If only someone thought to start a thread about United news and gossip 😒🤔😂

y0ssar1an22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119300902#Comment_119300902

the money they took out prob isnt astronomical. think it was usually in the region of 20m per year, taking ~10m the last 2 due to covid.

the issue is the club was bought by mortgaging the clubs own assets (still dont know how that was allowed to happen) so the main cash drain has been the interest payments on the debt, which seems to grow every year.

the glazers will bleed utd dry until the point its loss making, or thereabouts. and then they cash in. from a financial perspective this makes no sense to me, but its what people seem to think will happen. i think they just dont give a ****, and like really do not care what happens.

for example, sell the club for 3bn, pay cgt of roughly 1bn. net 2 bn. to do that in dividends would take (20m a year gross = 10m a year net after income tax on the dividends) 200 years.

the PL imposed on chelsea's new owners no dividends for 10 years. dont know why they dont step in with utd.

thebaz

Despite all the English media hype on Sterling , think City got on the right side of the deal - replacing Sterling with Haaland seams the smart transaction to me.

Mushy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119299866#Comment_119299866

I've always taken it that there's an agreement that a buying club can talk to a player with approval from the selling club, but clubs will talk and agree a fee and structure when personal terms have been agreed. These talks may happen alongside player-to-buying club talks, well, I'd assume so.

Far different from tapping up.