Airside daylight robbery

Hellrazer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119181399#Comment_119181399

Spook thanks for that - I stand corrected.

"(A) within the previous twelve months, the vehicle had been clamped and that clamp was removed without authorisation;"

Im going to have to be more careful in my dealings with my problem now. Mind you it goes to show that the ones Im dealing with dont know the law either since they also believed I was correct in saying it had to be clamped first. Hopefully they dont read this thread!!! Its a bit of a **** law to be honest and Id probably still continue to cut these off especially as we are supposed to have an agreement with the owners of the property.

Zebra3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119153078#Comment_119153078

I’m confused. I’ve read the entire thread and can’t make out where this public car park is and what it has to do with the thread.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119192691#Comment_119192691

Airside Shopping Centre according to the OP.

It's a carpark on private land to which the public have access.

odyssey06

Where was the OP supposed to park if they were going to somewhere in Airside other than the shops after 6pm?

Seems like a racket and innocent mistake. The shops in Airside have suffered zero loss as a result of the OP's actions and there's been some godawful strawman arguments put forward which seem based on nothing more than schadenfruede.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119193042#Comment_119193042

Yes it's a kind of flytrap.

Cars need to be parked in order to be a useful means of transport.

You have a big car park open to the public and might innocently think it's ok to park there.

The problem is that the law is on the side of the car park owners.

If you enter a car park that has signs, read them.

Spook_ie

Why would you need to park there if the shops are closed? Quick getaway after a bit of larceny perhaps.

Wishbone Ash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119196608#Comment_119196608

There are businesses on the other side of the car park which open later hours than the main shops but they do not have access to the car park for their customers. However, as the car park is physically accessible and very close to those businesses, it's easy for the uninitiated customers to assume that the car park is there for all customers in the area. Hence the reason why many believe that the clamping is purely a money making racket. If the car park owners really didn't want parking there, they could simply install a barrier.

Zebra3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198634#Comment_119198634

Why should they go to the expense and bother of a barrier?

Typical of the leach like attitude of motorists. Always expecting free storage space. Legally or illegally.

Wishbone Ash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119198664#Comment_119198664

To prevent customers of other businesses in the vicinity from parking in their car park. Would you leave your front door wide open and employ staff to prevent people from entering your house or would you simply lock your front door and dispense with the additional staff? Would you remove the doors on you car and employ people to prevent access to it? A barrier is hardly an 'expense' or 'bother'! We're not talking about 'leeching' for free storage space but motorists who are customers of businesses in the vicinity of this very large car park.

Zebra3

False comparison.

And a barrier is both an expense and a bother. It costs time and money. They have a system that works for them, the only people with a problem are the freeloaders.

paul321123

Have seen this a few times out there while waiting in the car for the other half, looks like they wait in there car and watch were people go after they parked, if they are not going to the shops they will be tickeded, be warned, this is the way they do it out there, a bit sneaky but there are signs all over the place.

Wishbone Ash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119199455#Comment_119199455

A couple of posts anchored to the ground and a metal crossbar and padlock is hardly much of an expense and it's a one off expense. Most supermarket car parks have them. There's too much money to be made from clamping instead.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119202125#Comment_119202125

Not that I have any time for the clampers but there may be reasons why a locked barrier would not suit all tenants on the complex.

For instance after hours access may be necessary for deliveries, for cleaners and maintenance, for keyholders in the event of alarm going off etc.

Also maybe all shops don't close at the same time and opening hours may vary ie. late opening at Christmas.

Then there is the question of access for emergency services, AGS, fire brigade, ambulance.

Wishbone Ash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119202429#Comment_119202429

Some valid points alright - there's a separate entrance for deliveries so I'm assuming key holders can also access their premises via that entrance.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119199455#Comment_119199455

clampers are also an ‘ ongoing ‘ expense and a bother.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119202631#Comment_119202631

I didn't think of the delivery entrance but I suppose that would probably have to be controlled with a barrier as well if they put one at the main entrance.

Is there much anti social carry on there after hours?

Wishbone Ash

For anyone not familiar with the car park in question, here's a satellite image of it. The car park is for customers of the businesses on the upper side. The customers of the businesses on the lower side (across the L2305) are not permitted to use it.

Zebra3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119202125#Comment_119202125

Well, organise a whip round.

oceanman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119202442#Comment_119202442

same here..never been clamper but always carry the gear in the boot.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119202841#Comment_119202841

Not long enough.

Between the extra weight you would be carrying around for a lifetimes driving and the charging up and replacing the grinders when the batteries can't be revived it would probably be cheaper to pay the release fee.

markpb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119202816#Comment_119202816

Maybe you’ve never been clamped because you know how to park?