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Which country's people are most like ourselves?

  • 14-05-2022 5:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 fishersham


    Please settle an argument.


    My friend is adamant the Kiwis are the most like us. I'm arguing the Scots.



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Kiwis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick


    I'd say the Leprechaun kingdom.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3


    New Zealand all the way, scots always bring up the celtic/rangers shite, Scots always struck me as being like Irish if they sold Irish people on wish



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Kiwis, I went out with one and subsequently worked with two others in different jobs..

    They have a similar sense of humour and world outlook to many Irish people … pretty easygoing and fun….



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I found New Zealand very ‘Presbyterian’. The people are dead sound, but the nightlife would be very reserved. Cool place for hiking, outdoor pursuits though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,212 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Grand Duchy of Fenwick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Kiwis are most like the Scots

    New Zealanders have that dour presbyterian thing going on , they are not like us at all , they are very tight with money for one thing , they also are not at all emotionally expressive and not at all showy in terms of flashy houses etc , we are far more like Australians than Kiwis which makes sense as a very large number of Australians are of irish ancestry , a very small percentage of New Zealanders are of irish catholic ancestry , a large number of Ulster Protestants moved to New Zealand down the years however



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    New Zealand is a very protestant country and I dont mean that as a negative description in anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Kingdom of Kerry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    Not emotionally expressive and not flashy? You’re basically arguing against your point and describing Irish people! Unless we have booze in us our ability to express emotions in a healthy way is pretty much rock bottom .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭ThePentagon


    Northern Ireland 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    Scotland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,719 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    It's not the Kiwis anyway. And even within that, there are first nation and European heritage Kiwis and neither have what you would call Irish characteristics.

    Scots obviously, yes. I would also say white Australians, the temperament and humour are similar.

    Of a few Countries I have visited I have noticed similar loves of family, socialising, music and story telling and when combined with the Christian heritage and colonial roots, there are notable comparisons with Argentina, Mexico, Greece.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    Jamaicans are pretty much the same as Irish... if we lived on a Caribbean Island and weed was socially acceptable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I'd agree more or less. The idea of Irish being outgoing, fun loving and friendly is all linked to the drink. Without it we are very reserved and come across as cold and harsh to other cultures. I don't know much about the Scottish or New Zealanders to make an in-depth comparison though. From what I have experienced I would say of the English speaking countries we are probably the least outgoing and outwardly confident. I would say we are more like eastern Europeans at heart although our use of language has adapted to appear less threatening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,599 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I've found a surprising amount of mentality and cultural crossovers with Mexicans and Puerto Ricans over the years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭65535


    Montserrat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,443 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    from the few countries ive been to, all humans more or less seem the same, certainly look the same, and behave the same, so.....



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I usually get on with most nationalitys..don't really find a problem...ten minutes or less chat ..and we know what works for us and what doesn't!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭sam t smith




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,443 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    america, some European countries, australia, new zealand, Vanuatu, many parts of south east asia, iceland, think thats about it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,817 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    In outlook, Irish are far more like Aussies than Kiwis. Aussies have a disrespect for authority and are more prone to rule bending and rule breaking than NZers, sounds familiar? Also see "tall poppy syndrome", just begrudgery with a different name, and their sports-centred and especially their drinking culture.

    Scots at least the dour Presbyterian types, are obviously from the same culture as their NI cousins.



  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Was going to say Mexicans... there's some sort of immediate understanding and common ground on some level between us. Often wondered about it. The Catholic/post-Catholic thing and having a big bully neighbour in your history is part of it, but neither fully explains the immediacy of the understanding. Then again, there are different Mexicos and I'm talking about the big cities, DF in particular. And of course Mexico has a history of bullying smaller countries in the region.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Timmyr


    If you think the nightlife is reserved you've been going to the wrong places, amazing nightlife over here

    Kiwis are not at all tight with money, why would you think that? Some of the houses here are insanely flashy!


    Ive lived in both NZ and Aus and kiwis are by far more like Irish, white Aussies are very different



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    As the travelling community are now officially a different race. I will say irish travellers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,069 ✭✭✭sporina


    Portugal are like we Irish, but with a tan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Irish people are more latin in temperament than our Northern European neighbours , I dont mean we kiss each other on the cheek as a greeting etc but brits ( especially ulster unionists ) , Germans , Nordics etc , are more sober in dealings , Kiwis are the same



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    quote button not working for some reason , Irish people are not " cold and harsh " at all , have you ever dealt with Eastern Europeans ? , Kiwis are an extremely hard headed people , we are soft headed and suckers for sob stories , its why personal responsibility is such a struggle for us

    we are two faced and love to bitch behind peoples back after smiling at them two minutes earlier , we dont tell people what we think , " what you see is what you get " is certainly not us , the poles etc are incredibly blunt and brutally honest , as are scots and Kiwis and Ulster Unionists



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    again quote button not working , Timmyr , Ive also lived in NZ , kiwis are very tight with money in my experience , the quality of housing ranges from about as flashy as a hay barn to tasteful but certainly not flash , quality of build is universally awful but thats a different topic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    the Scots around the catholic part of Glasgow may be like us , the rest of them are nothing like us , they are the same as Ulster Unionists , a very sizeable percentage of the population of Scotland absolutely hate us



  • Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    With regards shared cultural values. Similar experiences with oppression and being scattered to the four winds, shared values of education, lots of witty writers, lots of noble prize winners. Scattered societies and regaining our independence after many centuries and reputations for fighting and toughness..the people most like us are...drumroll....Jews



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I dont know who it was said the following ?


    " the jews and the irish do not share a culture , they share a psychosis "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Timmyr


    Where did you live, ive been here 6 years and I can assure you that is absolutely not true at all!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Timmyr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Timmyr


    That is definitely not true in any of the major cities, how long did you live here for?

    Kiwis are known for spending and living beyond their means, not for being tight

    Also there a re many many extravagant houses in Chch

    https://www.realestate.co.nz/residential/sale/canterbury/christchurch-city/house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭B2021M


    The culture of countries is normally quite closely linked to their historic predominant religion. So NZ is presumably more similar to Scotland than anywhere else as it was largely settled by Scottish Presbyterians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    Aussies are like us



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Timmyr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    quite true , the country has a deeply Presbyterian character , that most kiwis dont practice any religion is beside the point , the Nordic countries dont either but are deeply Lutheran in terms of national character



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭thefallingman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭thehairygrape


    Never been to NZ or Australia (on the bucket list), so can’t comment. Although any Kiwi I’ve met has been sound. Scotland is a bit of a mixture. I think the Catholic/Protestant thing is a factor. 99% of Scots are great (as are most people you meet really). But the only time I’ve ever been told to “piss off home” was by a woman walking her dog in Scotland. One isolated incident shouldn’t cloud things, but it does, unfortunately. Now, maybe I should leave the GAA jersey at home...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Timmyr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭B2021M


    Yes exactly...hence why a lot of posters have mentioned Mexicans as similar to Irish I suppose.

    Is it a thing in the UK that Irish are known as 'Italians without a tan'? I haven't heard it in general but have heard it from a few Brits I knew over the years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    People have a view of the Scots based on the Irish diaspora there. The Protestant Scot’s are a little different. Much more like your average Ulster Protestant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Scots are pretty different to us, tend to be moody, cranky hoors. The Welsh would be closer.

    Aussies not like us, basically English people who've cheered up due to generations of them experiencing non stop sunshine

    Poles are very like the Irish, Filipinos tend to be a bit like Irish people, easygoing, friendly, bit of a temper.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,719 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    what about Indians? They have a very easy going, get on with anyone temperament I find.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Timmyr


    What is Presbyterian character? Also around 50% of kiwis do practice a religion



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