12 Penalty Points

Happy Monday

I had 9 points over the last 2 years but received another fine in the post for 3 points today!

This puts me off the road for 6 months and there are no exceptional or procedural reasons to plead.

But if I do lose my license I will not be able to care for my elderly parents and give lifts to work to nephews and also have difficulty getting into work and keeping my own job.

Can I plead exceptional hardship for this as you can in the UK or will my concerns fall on deaf ears in the Irish Courts?

All answers welcome.

Atlantic Dawn

What were the offences for?

Happy Monday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118949406#Comment_118949406

Speeding - all 4 offences.

I cannot understand how anyone can rake up so many penalty points. Did the ones you got not change your driving habits OP?

[Steve]

Appeal within 14 days of disqualification to circuit court. Up to judge to decide at that point.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/driving_offences/being%20disqualified%20from%20driving.html#l7d46e

Happy Monday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118949417#Comment_118949417

Over 2 plus years plus the first two came in very quick succession!

callaway92

Pleading hardship just won't work. Opens up too many sob stories

There's no getting around getting caught speeding 4+ times. That's really poor driving. No other way to put it.

You could've pleaded each charge you got at those times. Hardly appealing the situation now would be any help.

Atlantic Dawn

You could try to appeal if you think there's grounds to like being a slight bit over the limit each time, if you were doing double plus of the limit I'd put it down to experience.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118949433#Comment_118949433

Exactly, may be once or twice appealing a speeding ticket, but waiting till you have 12 penalty points, then pleading the poor mouth? Nah. Should have learnt a lesson way before now.

Bass Reeves

If you do not accept the penalty points and go to court how long will it take to go to court. Go to a solicitor and see what he says. Problem with going to court is the judge may up them.to 5 or 6 so you may need to delay until after both of the first sets expired.

If you pick up penalty points you have to watch yourself like a hawk. You cannot afford any slip ups.

whippet

The hardship of not having a license is part of the incentive not to speed. If there was easy avenue to appeal the FPN process due to hardship it would defeat the purpose of having such a system in place.

I do have sympathy to an extent .. however the penalty points system is designed to change driver behaviour and despite the fact that you knew that the next 3 points would mean disqualification you still managed to get caught.

I’ve driven approx 500,000km in the last 10 years and only received 2 points (one speeding offence back when it was 2 not 3 points) … I needed my car for work and the risk of not having a license meant I drove accordingly.

Likewise - if I am going on a night out I will make sure I don’t have anywhere to drive the next day - just in case.

Kimbot

If you cant care for your elderly parents etc now then you should have thought about that before racking up so many points to begin with.

Your only hope is a solicitor now.

Widdensushi

Sorry for your troubles happy Monday,i hope you find a way to appeal it, are you sure it was you driving the car for the last one, maybe a friend or relative borrowed it? it's really a waste of time asking for advice here, you just get virtue signalling

fminus

Actions have consequences.

You - a fully grown adult - continually broke the speed limit, knowing full well what the potential repercussions were.

Im sick of people thinking that they are special or above the law.

No sympathy. 100% deserved!

JayPS 2288

I agree with points for speeding. Habitual speeders need to be punished.

But there are people who get points for being marginally over, that I don’t agree with. Fine, yes, but points should only click in after a certain amount.

In saying that, I always drive at 80% of the limit to save petrol.

dickdasr1234

There's speeding and there's breaking the speed limit. Which was it?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118950097#Comment_118950097

Virtue signalling?😂😂 because most people realise after 3/6 penalty points that they need to change their behaviour?

facehugger99

Your only option is to claim you didn't receive the fixed penalty notice - I presume these are still not being delivered by registered mail.

You'll then be summoned to Court. Rock up and tell the judge you're not disputing the offence but didn't receive the letter - he'll slap you with a few hundred of a fine to the Court poor box and send you on your way.

GandhiwasfromBallyfermot

Actions, meet consequences

spurious

Take the six months and in future drive like you have your elderly parents on board.

Happy Monday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118950097#Comment_118950097

I hear you! And yes. the good people are out in force on here! I should have given up driving for Lent! 😀

User1998

OP do either of your parents still have a license but don’t drive? If so I would explain the situation to them and ask can you give their license number and have the points allocated to their license. As it makes no difference to them and means they can still be cared for

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118950168#Comment_118950168

Just giving up speeding would have been enough...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118950168#Comment_118950168

No, you probably should have just given up speeding

blackbox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118950204#Comment_118950204

Not sure that this is legal.

Pretty sure it isn't!

j2

Shouldn't be getting caught speeding in this day and age with the apps available to the speedy motorist. I love to speed, but I'm at a racing driver skill level and drive a car that's safe at speed but also slowing down quickly, but I don't do it in the presence of police or cameras. Let that be a lesson to ya!

rolling boh

Would ask a solicitor no point asking on a forum as you will only get replies telling you you shouldn't be speeding and suck it up .

berocca2016

When are your earliest points due for removal ?

Can you delay the sanctioning of the final points until the first have been removed?

Happy Monday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118950410#Comment_118950410

December 2022 - would need to stretch this process out until the new year.

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118950401#Comment_118950401

'but the lads on boards said going 10km/h over the limit was perfectly safe, your honour.'

berocca2016

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118950418#Comment_118950418

Get a solicitor and come up with a plan!