So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122711543#Comment_122711543

I said weeks ago that X and others would significantly ramp up the help for Trump this month. It was pretty obvious and will possibly push him over the line.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122712615#Comment_122712615

That and the raw milk thing.

Look if some like MTG want to thin out the herd a bit by recommending that they drink raw milk, they need to remember that as the people they are reaching out to also tend to be as thick as pig shít as well as mental health cases, and might think whole milk is raw milk.

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122713619#Comment_122713619

An autonomous car would have taken a better decision, especially compared with this case where quite likely the driver swerved instinctively without thinking.

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122713770#Comment_122713770

But you previously said it wouldn't make a decision like that

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122709229#Comment_122709229

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122713709#Comment_122713709

Yes but that is only an issue if social media doesn't help Republicans. Now it is just how it should be obviously \s.

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122713707#Comment_122713707

X algorithm. At this point, I've given up trying to understand it, this week for the first time I felt I had to hit the "less of this type of stuff" button.

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122714003#Comment_122714003

I don't see any contradiction there, if you think you got a gotcha there, you don't.

Anyway, some great news:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845446365717156265

corkie

@Cordell I will embed that X link for you! :-)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1845446365717156265

https://twitter.com/nfkmobile/status/1845449264433926560

kowloon

If roads were properly maintained with good surfaces, clear markings and more markings I think autonomous vehicles could use them with fewer incidents than human drivers. I think you might have to have all the cars driving autonomously for it to work well though. But roads are rarely perfect and there are lots of humans in cars and walking about to create problems. Warehouse robots have no issues following a "track" painted on the floor. Self-driving cars could do the same if road markings and signs were up to scratch.

I hope Musk isn't the one to crack though after all his false claims.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122716536#Comment_122716536

Yeah, but road markings are paid for through taxation, and we all know how Musk feels about that...

In other news:

https://fortune.com/2024/10/13/elon-musk-tesla-optimus-robot-tele-operated-robotaxi/

It's actually pretty incredible to have wireless marionettes move so well. That would have so many uses. You could theoretically send them to Mars or the moon and start building without risking human life, for example.

Working in mines could be another use.

However, lying about the use of AI is utter bullsh*t.

I think Musk is probably just hanging out with Trump too much at this stage. Lust lie, and if you're caught in a lie, keep lying.

He hasn't commented yet in this, he's probably waiting on Trump to get back to him about how to keep lying about it.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122716715#Comment_122716715

It's actually pretty incredible to have wireless marionettes move so well. That would have so many uses. You could theoretically send them to Mars or the moon and start building without risking human life, for example.

That's given me an idea for a story. In some future scenario humans have been sending robots into space to prepare for an eventual human landing. On some distant planet the robots meet up with intelligent alien life and form an agreeable relationship. Then later the humans arrive and they're the worst humanity has to offer, people like Trump and Musk, who immediately go about exploiting the alien's cordial nature and willingness to be friendly. They strip their lands of natural resources, have no regard for the local population or their culture, and use the alien's planet for their own ends. Until eventually the aliens decide they've had enough of humanity and wipe it out, leaving the robots to inherit the earth.

Quin_Dub

Lets look at what Elon announced at his event.

Optimus Robots - These were in fact not really autonomous robots , they were largely being operated by human "pilots" , they have some very small amounts of AI functionality , but all the visually impressive stuff was done via remote control.

So ,Vapourware bullshit from Musk.

CyberTaxi- A weird 2 door coupe with what appears to be extremely limited storage capacity making it functionally useless as a taxi in the real world and likely currently illegal as well almost everywhere in the world. They also decided to have it charge via inductive charging (presumably to remover the need for a person to plug it in) , however there is ZERO inductive charging infrastructure in the world , so even if the car was to go into production in 2026 as claimed (it absolutely won't) , no one will be able to charge the bloody things and it could take decades for the infrastructure to get to meaningful levels (we still struggle massively with plugged in charging today). The chances of there being actual cyber-taxis in widespread use in the next decade or more are slim to none.

More Vapourware bullshit from Musk.

Robovan (or Rub-oven as Elon pronounced it) - A chocolate teapot of epic proportions , seating for 20 but only if you sit literally knee to knee with no ability to move to the door if needed , no storage for stuff other than an external "trunk" that looks really awkward to access. No ground clearance, making it utterly unsuitable for the real world.

So , again Vapourware nonsense.

Absolutely nothing that Musk "launched" this week will be available or used at scale any time soon , no wonder the stock price tanked afterwards.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122716715#Comment_122716715

Not too hard to have them move on solid ground and carry out simple menial tasks with people controlling them from nearby. You put them on uneven ground and expect them to move things with any significant weight or force and add into that the delay in signal between Earth and Mars and what you'll more likely end up with is a robot graveyard.

This is Musk's version of "concepts of a plan". Looks impressive on the surface, but the workaround required to accomplish what he's promising shows that he currently cannot even nearly deliver what he's promising.

PopePalpatine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122717193#Comment_122717193

James Cameron would like to know your location.

silverharp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122717271#Comment_122717271

interesting juncture, either he has a couple of trillion $ ideas on his hands plus getting humanity to Mars or he is a total shyster?

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122717341#Comment_122717341

If only there was some way of knowing which…

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/02/business/elon-musk-twitter-x-fidelity/index.html

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122717341#Comment_122717341

Bit of both really along with massive ego and hubris.

There's nothing wrong with the "ideas" that he's putting forward in theory , far from it but he is lying through his teeth about where the company are on the journey to making them a practical reality.

He's also ignoring the external factors that will be huge barriers to his "vision" - Legislation requirements , infrastructure requirements and public trust among many others are going to be massive barriers to getting to a place where fully autonomous vehicles are allowed to be used pervasively and Musk is basically ignoring them.

Grayson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122717271#Comment_122717271

Just on induction charging. I don't know if it's any better now but a few years ago i remember reading that anything between 50%-60% of the power is lost in the charging process. It also lessens the battery life in phones.

It essentially generates an electromagnetic field and the receiving device uses that to generate electricity. But a lot of the field is lost. That's not too bad when you're charging a phone. But for a car? So I'm wondering what the efficiency is like now and what the actual cost of charging is.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122717414#Comment_122717414

Indeed , there's a whole separate discussion about the efficiency and effectiveness of inductive charging vs. regular methods.

But when there are no inductive chargers available anywhere to start with that's the bigger issue.

There are concepts out there about having inductive charging built into the roads so in theory the car charges all the time as it drives around , but again something like that is decades away from any meaningful reality.

Musks biggest problem isn't the ideas or concepts, it's how they become reality at meaningful scale anytime soon.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122717291#Comment_122717291

Uncle Jimmy knows where I live already.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122717341#Comment_122717341

He had promised to be in Mars in April of this year, his rocket technology is behind schedule, Robotaxis are way behind schedule, the robots don’t seem up to much, haven’t heard about hyper loop in a while.

He is selling Tesla as a technology company not a car company, it’s value seems to be based on it being a tech company (compared to other leading car companies the value ia insane). It’s in his interest to come up with ideas, now it’s getting to the point where “coming soon “ isn’t good enough.

silverharp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122718731#Comment_122718731

Being behind schedule is normal , Hyper loop was always a dud idea as I understood it "bringing the problems of space to trains". Big picture though it does look like AI and robots are going to be the big disrupt-er of the next 10 or 20 years so he is in the right space pardon the pun.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122718768#Comment_122718768

Long term , of course AI is going to be a significant change , however the question is how long will it take and who will be the one to truly cash in on it - Musk would like it to be him so he is hyping the hell out if his companies ability to deliver , but the hype is not living up to reality.

Like I said, it's not the ideas that are wrong it's the timelines and lack of attention to implementation.

I heard someone recently compare the current AI "boom" with the dot-com era in the late 1990 and early 2000's.

Back then everybody was just adding a .com to the end of anything and everything claiming victory. then the arse fell out if it and probably 75% of the dot com companies went belly up in 2002/2003 - That didn't mean that the internet was a bust , far from it.. It's now central to the global way of life.

AI will be the same - We are in the Hype phase right now soon to be followed by what is called the "trough of disillusionment" when most of the companies claiming to be the "future of AI" will go bust leaving a few survivors to cash in.

Musk hopes that's him , but so far he's too heavy on the hype and badly lacking on delivery.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122716715#Comment_122716715

Yeah, but road markings are paid for through taxation, and we all know how Musk feels about that...

He was more than happy to rely on taxpayer's money for Tesla and SpaceX, he just doesn't like anyone else being bailed out or subsidised.

silverharp

American Democrats are so small minded restricting the number of Space X launches , way to try to sabotage their own country

maik3n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122724321#Comment_122724321

For reference \/

http://www.reuters.com/legal/musks-spacex-sues-california-panel-alleges-political-bias-over-rocket-launches-2024-10-16/

Mind you, I'm not seeing how this is sabotaging your own country.
There are still many other broadband services available, so besides the starlink satellites, what are they launching all the rockets for?

silverharp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122725617#Comment_122725617

American company wants to make money is all the reason anybody needs not to mention good for training and skills purposes

silverharp

I used to watch some of his science related videos years ago, what happened to him? lol he seems to have a bad case of EDS, basically 3min of a pathetic person hoping the rocket launch goes wrong

https://twitter.com/DKiSAerospace/status/1845744347469205846

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122725895#Comment_122725895

EDS, is this the new catchphrase for the Musk Mind Virus? This is great fun, just making names up.

Given Musk's predictions, I don't expect thunderf00t to run out of content.

hoodie6029

Ouch!