So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

Timberrrrrrrr

Facebook trolling twitter

https://twitter.com/facebook/status/1604519559784206337?t=eLY2jGKR0ORKh8XMLevs0w&s=19

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012282#Comment_120012282

Oh god i retract it, get me back in the office rather than that image. What a weird life he leads.

Varik

The difference between boards and twitter is that boards is fully liable for anything posted here regardless of how much or little is edited, see how jump mods get over anyone a little litigious.

Section 230 in the US gives them protection from that, but there was also no protection anyway outside the US and no EU equivalent.

If they only edit and remove what is illegal and don't go further than that by playing a editorial role they aren't class as a publisher and are not liable. There has been multiple people that have said that old Twitter/facebook/YouTube ect already went further and should lose 230 protection.

If people want to make the argument that twitter should lose 230 protection over the links the same applies for the rest for banning blocking or otherwise editing content something the rest of the US SM companies do far more of.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012334#Comment_120012334

I'm not here to discuss boards moderation I will make that clear. I Am pointing out in that case it was editorial It was a minister or MP in the British parliament noting illegal or liable. So what the French guy is saying in relation to editorial in this case its the same. I don't care what the mods did in that threads case that's up to the mods. We should be vary carful what we wish for and support in cases Drawing the eye to one platform draws the eye to all. I would not want Boards to allow stormfront or alike post on here Or truth social. But you cant sit and say banning one is fine banning others is not. It's an Ethical thing.

I assume musk is going after everyone not just platforms he does not like Truth social is on the list. He banned all the other tracking bots too. Whether this falls afoul of the law is a different matter. Most people have argued most social media is editorial but it seemed to be fine at the time when it was not musk. Twitter and FB have screamed till they are blue in the face they are not news for example so content moderation is fine for them to do. They should be dragged into the Editorial sphere and made to be nonpartisan.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012334#Comment_120012334

Agreed. And it's vital for Twitter to make sure it is absolutely clear they are not a publisher.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604588904828600320?t=sxl-Oa6VBon5HhUcHd1Kug&s=19

Varik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012387#Comment_120012387

Few things

The French guy is an idiot, he's not a minister as he failed out of the job a decade ago. the law he's basing his opinion on is entirely US based with no equivalent.

You're right people are only taking issue with the requirements of section 230 as it's musk, if they thought about it a second they'd realize they probably don't want that can of worms open.

If all the SM companies lost that protection and were treated as publishers of all the content on their sites they wouldn't be non partisan. Actually going the other way and enforcing the requirements of 230 might as it's limit what they could or couldn't remove.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012421#Comment_120012421

They are a publisher, Section 230 is about liability of others content. They've never not been a publisher.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120011738#Comment_120011738

Yes. But Dunnes and Tesco aren't advertising themselves as places you can say ANYTHING, (for example naming competitors)

Agent Coulson

The bots will be working hard now for the next 12 hours

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604617643973124097?s=46&t=n0CmYf-F3pTK-sKInn_Szg

He knows he is in over his head now

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604623424164282368?s=46&t=n0CmYf-F3pTK-sKInn_Szg

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012676#Comment_120012676

There is no free speech on any social media platform You cannot say Anything. Even Legacy Twitter did not allow anything.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012714#Comment_120012714

But I thought the whole point of Elon buying twitter was to allow free speech. I mean that'd what's him ans his fanboys constantly droned on about.

ForestFire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012701#Comment_120012701

I've voted No to this one..... it's too much fun to see it come to an end without a big bang!!

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012732#Comment_120012732

People can interpret it anyway they like. But the fact is there is no free speech on Twitter legacy or now. You cannot be openly racist incite hatred and violence. Try that on boards.

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012701#Comment_120012701

Is he looking for an out?

New CEO comes in and reverses and resets everything back to the eve of Musk's takeover and try's to make it a profitable company, like a proper business person and not a spoiled child.

.Donegal.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604628761395138561

His response to someone saying he already has a new CEO chosen.

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012777#Comment_120012777

A **** lettuce would do a better job! If twitter was still public, I'd be convinced he had the stock shorted just to make up for the Tesla loss and overpaying for Twitter. I'd love to know what the other twitter investors be thinking.

one armed dwarf

Don't go Elon, hang around. Keep doing the terminally online mid life crisis act, its fun

harmless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012800#Comment_120012800

He's not stupid enough to commit insider trading, right? right?

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012884#Comment_120012884

Haha soon as I read that, it reminds me of his tweet about taking Tesla private when it hit 420 a share.

I think it's more a case of: He's not smart enough not to commit insider trading!

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012701#Comment_120012701

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012760#Comment_120012760

Here is one angle

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012923#Comment_120012923

Damn, if I'd known that I would have voted for him to stay as CEO...

Anyway, Twitter Support has now deleted the tweets and policy about linking to other social media sites, which again shows the whole thing up as being an idiotic, poorly planned decision in the first place, created on a whim to satisfy a CEO who has no clue what he's doing and has already cleared out so many of the experienced employees who would have told him it's a stupid idea. Looking forward to seeing the reversal of arguments here where posters defending the policy now have to tie themselves in knots to defend removing the policy.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012961#Comment_120012961

I’m so conflicted about the poll. Now if he had a poll on maintaining ownership, then I’d be first in line to get him out.

But if ownership is a given, then keeping him in CEO seat has a certain car crash entertainment value.

I do feel sorry for the remaining staff though, particularly those who are tied to the company with work visas.

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012742#Comment_120012742

LOL you keep desperately trying to draw comparisons between then and now yet nobody on here has ever claimed Twitter under the previous leadership had completely free speech either.

Musk has droned on and on about bringing free speech to Twitter since this whole escapade kicked off. As you admit there still isn't free speech on Twitter was he lying or just childishly naive?

Cody montana

Wonder how Tesla stock will do today.

Anyone notice you see loads of replies to tweets and when you click on tweet there are only 1-2 replies.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012961#Comment_120012961

Just from a simple bread & butter perspective: investors, advertisers, the markets in general all hate instability. Volatility drives money away, there's simply no escaping that foundational piece of economics - ask Liz Truss (or indeed any UK Prime Minister since Cameron) how well things go when you just make wild swings within an already brittle market. Or indeed any crypto currency for that matter.

You can't run a company making shít up as you go along before Legal slaps you down, economic blocs take you to court, or advertisers move to another platform. That can't sustain things in the medium term. Not least when you hobble other services and software from using your own; that's just insane and there's simple no parallels with retail to be drawn here when its those 3rd parties who are paying you to use their platform in the first place.

The whole point of social media in the first instance is that it was a completely new industry nobody could have foreseen - but some basics still do apply. Firstly, nobody will invest their money in a product whose ToS change through the whim of its owner.

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120013004#Comment_120013004

Yup keep seeing tweets with replies but none appear when you go to look

Quin_Dub

With less than an hour to go , it's sitting at just short of 58% wanting him to step down with nearly 17M votes cast

Wonder will he "abide" by this one?

Royale with Cheese

I voted no anyway. Plz don't go Elon, it's been absolutely hilarious watching you fail.

one armed dwarf

Yeah locking down other sites was such a weird move when you think of the increased integration there are between social sites and twitter. Even here on boards, you paste a link and it executes some js to integrate twitter's UI right here. Even as a non twitter user (I have an account, but it has maybe 10 tweets and I don't really engage actively) you're forced to look at it. A savvy mind would look at the increased uptake of things like Mastodon and keep looking at ways to integrate twitter into these sites, keeping even the alt-twitters within orbit of its sphere of influence. It's one of many contributing factors to the failure to really leave twitter behind imo. So if you wanted to see twitter die you'd probably welcome the big outside-engagement 'wall' they seemed to try to build here

Every decision appears to be made with full Streisand effect impact. Decisions that are within the owner's remit to make, its his platform, but they are stupendously dim and damaging decisions.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012961#Comment_120012961

From half of them it's just going to be more low value contributions like EDM (not the fun kind) and "you're just triggered, blah blah wokeness PC gone mad blah blah". There's playing devil's advocate (which imo is fine) but then there's also just singing from the same hymnbook in CA week after week

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120013482#Comment_120013482

It's also a complete misunderstanding of the how the "social" part of social media actually works.

So someone with a big Youtube channel - MrBeast for example, might go on Twitter and post a clip from their latest offering on YT and say , come see my latest 1hr video about whatever.

That generates views and clicks and Ad revenue for Twitter as followers share and comment about the tweet about the latest video.

All that is now gone - So less views , less clicks and less revenue.

All because of yet another petty childish over-reaction to something by Elon.

Quin_Dub

And.... He's walked it back already.

What an absolute imbecile.

Twitter on Sunday announced it would ban the “free promotion” of other social media services and suspend accounts encouraging users to move to a different platform.

“We recognise that many of our users are active on other social media platforms,” Twitter Support said in a now-deleted tweet.

“We will no longer allow free promotion of certain social media platforms on Twitter,” it added, citing a list of other services such as Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, Truth Social, Tribel, Nostr and Post accounts.

Accounts that were created for the sole purpose of promoting other social media platforms will be removed, Twitter said.

It added that accounts would be prohibited from sharing link aggregators such as Linktree and Lnk.bio.

“We still allow cross-posting content from any social media platform.”

How many walk-backs and climb-downs is that now?