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Importing Costs

  • 23-03-2022 6:12pm
    #1
    sicarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭


    So me and my partner are looking to finally do our lessons/test, She a Car me a Motorcycle.

    There is a great selection of motorcycles in the UK at a great price, anyone know how worth while it is to get them brought over?

    Cost wise what steps are involved, is it just getting the Reg changed? is that costly?


    Any help appreciated.

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  • #2
    GBX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    You'll need to pay VRT and Vat.

    Look up VRT calculator on Revenue.ie

    Proof of import either ferry ticket and/or receipt from transport company.



  • #3
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    If you have no experience importing then the UK is not a viable option for you. If you decide to import then look at the EU not the UK. As a third country the importation requirements are a lot more onerous than an EU bike. Including getting a customs agent, it’s all very pricey and simply not worth doing any longer.



  • #4
    sicarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭sicarr


    Thanks Both for the info, really appreciated! :)



  • #5
    newmember2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    I wanted to bring a bike in from UK for parts that I wouldn't be putting back on the road. Where am I stopped by customs and how do they calculate how much I need to pay? I have receipt for the bike for £250



  • #6
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118832402#Comment_118832402

    doesn't matter, you are still importing a vehicle, and you'll still have to present is such to an NCT centre for inspection. If you don't want to do that, you'll actually have to dismantle it in UK and ship it over in bits.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • #7
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118825771#Comment_118825771

    Import duty too I think. The UK import market is toast.



  • #8
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Customs agent as well. Not a diy affair any longer



  • #9
    newmember2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118833628#Comment_118833628

    Why would I be bringing it to NCT? The bike is being broken up and will not be registered in Ireland. What I wanted to know was where are the customs paid, is it at the port or is every van/truck coming through already processed and in possession of the necessary papers?



  • #10
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118883573#Comment_118883573

    Probably best to ask a Customs agent these questions. Anything being brought in to Ireland has to have a whole load of paperwork filled out before it arrives on these shores.



  • #11
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118883573#Comment_118883573

    because the NCT office is where you do the importation process and where you pay Revenue it's money. That service is outsourced to NCT by Revenue.

    And for that, you're going to need, and need to do, all the paperwork.


    https://www.ncts.ie/1195/

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • #12
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    I thought it was well established that if a car or motorcycle being imported is never intended to be used on public roads, it does not need to be registered and therefore no VRT is due.

    Is this actually not the case?

    Not your ornery onager



  • #13
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Intent means nothing under the law. Either you've imported a bike and are liable for charges or you have not...



  • #14
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118890904#Comment_118890904

    There was a case a few years back where this was clarified in respect of some rally cars that were imported and the answer was that they were required to pay VRT

    I can't remember when the court case was.



  • #15
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,527 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    But rally cars are used on public roads.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • #16
    CJhaughey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Yeah I can’t remember the details that clearly, might have been track cars or something like that. Not really that interested in 4 wheel motorsport tbh but I’m sure if you want to have a search for the case it’s out there.



  • #17
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118898067#Comment_118898067

    Closed road stages are not public though ...

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #18
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,527 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118913711#Comment_118913711

    Rally cars are required to be street legal. Only "special stages" take place on either closed roads or private tracks, there's lots of public road mileage in between which isn't really against the clock but still has to be completed within a given time.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • #19
    newmember2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    My question is answered then is it? - There's no customs due at the point of import on the docks? It's all left to the importer to present the vehicle for VRT inspection and the VAT and customs charge is calculated and paid at the NCT centre?



  • #20
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118832402#Comment_118832402

    Bring it in via Belfast.



  • #21
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    VAT and VRT are based on a calculated value, not the purchase price...



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  • #22
    robbie_63
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭robbie_63


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118975816#Comment_118975816

    Correct, no one is going to stop you at the port and make you pay anything,

    Its always left to the importer to get it registered, etc



  • #23
    newmember2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118977277#Comment_118977277

    I know there's one for cars but you're saying there's also a database of calculated values for motorbikes?



  • #24
    newmember2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118977317#Comment_118977317

    Thanks, if I'm bringing something in that's going to be broken up and is never going on the road then I'd have no qualms whatsoever of not presenting it.



  • #25
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978723#Comment_118978723

    Thats not what I'm saying. They use the age of the vehicles and the capacity to calculate the VRT, VAT & Import Duties are done differently. No one knows how they calculate them, but it's generally higher than you'd expect.

    https://www.vrt.ie/faq/vrt-rates-motorcycles/



  • #26
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118979551#Comment_118979551

    VAT and duty are calculated on the invoice price plus transport costs. If you take the pee and fudge the invoice they will look for further proof.

    I went through the process of importing a UK bike this time last year.



  • #27
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,527 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118977277#Comment_118977277

    VRT on a bike is purely based on cc and age.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • #28
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118989765#Comment_118989765

    As I said above



  • #29
    newmember2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118989900#Comment_118989900

    You didn't say above...you said "a calculated value". The VRT you pay on a bike has nothing to do with its value.



  • #30
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119004224#Comment_119004224

    Oh FFS... The age and capacity are used to calculate a value for the purposes of VRT... Stop being so pedantic and trying to have a problem with everything.



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  • #31
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119004459#Comment_119004459

    The c.c. and the age alone determine how much VRT is due. 'Value' is nowhere in the equation for VRT on motorcycles.

    It is relevant for duty and VAT however.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #32
    Hocus Focus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Hocus Focus


    The best source of info on this is on the Citizens Information website:

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving-country/moving-to-ireland/coming-to-live-in-ireland/importing-car-into-ireland/

    and the official Revenue website :

    https://www.vrt.ie/



  • #33
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120812479#Comment_120812479

    That's not 'the official Revenue site'.

    It is a third party site taking money for information that is free.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #34
    Hocus Focus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Hocus Focus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120816346#Comment_120816346

    My mistake, https://www.revenue.ie/en/vrt/index.aspx is what I should have posted.



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