China Eastern Airlines Crash

knucklehead6

Chinese state media reports a Boeing 737 flown by China Eastern Airlines with 133 on board has crashed in Guangxi, igniting a forest fire. No word yet on survivors

knucklehead6

Flight Mu5735

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https://twitter.com/hkcd_hk/status/1505822008575401984?s=21

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https://www.kunming-airport.com/kmg-arrivals?tp=18

A curious number of incoming flights recently cancelled.

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https://twitter.com/kwitter12085169/status/1505824939785748481?s=21

Little left of it. RIP to those who perished.

devnull

FR24 shows it suddenly dropped like a stone. 30 thousand feet in approx three minutes.

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A screenshot from video of part of aircraft

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118812667#Comment_118812667

Consistent with an elevator /tail plane failure among other things.

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https://twitter.com/flying_panda747/status/1505825468133511168?s=21

rameire

Video supposedly showing the plane before impact.

Looks vertical.

https://twitter.com/momchil_ivanov1/status/1505839066310492160

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118812877#Comment_118812877

There’s a peculiar moment where it “hangs” before it drops. Did they pause the video briefly at this point, or is it a glitch in the “photoshopping”?

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In 2012 I travelled on board a China Eastern 737 from Beijing to Shanghai where the flight safety video showed a re-enacted scenario of passengers escaping, in orderly fashion, a smoke filled cabin with flames in the background. They certainly went in for the realism method of getting their message across.

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Curious looking clean rivet holes on one of the pictures, like some surfaces abruptly peeled apart.

POBox19

Straight down, very strange.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10634901/Boeing-737-passenger-jet-carrying-133-crashes-rural-China.html

GM228

At -31,000 fpm what sort of Gs would have been experienced? Likely pass out level I would think well before the inevitable.

Sultan of Bling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118813777#Comment_118813777

Hopefully.

Video is horrific.

knucklehead6

I know its a low res video, and its quite possible that the airplane was 'side on' but it doesn't look like the wings or tail are still attached to that fuselage

billie1b

If you're looking at 31,000ft in 3 minutes, that equates to about 970kts or 1115mph in old money

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118814144#Comment_118814144

No, it's actually about under 200km/h which is consistent with terminal velocity i.e. free falling.

3 minutes of screaming in terror ...

lawrencesummers

Im just here to see if this is one if the s-max that caused all the problems previously…

EchoIndia

It is not a 737 Max.

POBox19

I'll wait for Juan Browne's assessment.

https://www.youtube.com/user/blancolirio

JohnC.

Another video from dashcam. Not quite as, but still very, vertical from this angle, and still terrifying

https://twitter.com/ChinaAvReview/status/1505856305495351296

billie1b

That's if it was free falling, if it still had engine power it would be much much faster

Noxegon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118814207#Comment_118814207

Depends on whether cabin pressure was lost or not. If there was explosive decompression then the amount of useful consciousness would be very limited.

Tzardine

RIP - a tragic loss of life.

Looks like a deliberate nose dive by whoever was in command of the aircraft. Very unusual to go from cruise to a perfect and consistent nose dive.

Annascaul

We can only speculate at this moment. But even in the case that both engines failed at once the plane would have been gliding for a lot longer. So for that sudden drop there must have been a reason.

GM228

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118815554#Comment_118815554

Again it is purely speculation, but perhaps a pilot tubes or AOA sensor issue, highly unlikely given the multiple redundancies, but it can happen and cause a similar fate, obviously different flight parameters but a similar issue to AF447 perhaps?

Annascaul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118815646#Comment_118815646

We just have to wait until they find the flight recorder and are able to read the data.