Cost of repairs

irishguy19772

Got charged 200 euro for replacement of 2 brake shoes and 1 wheel brake cylinder

100 for materials and 100 for labour

Just wondering if this is pricey?

Speedline

It's cheaper than running your car into a wall or the back of a truck with no brakes.

Its OK price wise.

Dakota Dan

What I usually do is go to you tube and see if I can do it myself, get reasonably priced parts and if that fails the Indy mechanic up the road is the next option. 200 seems dear.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058237090/cost-of-repairs

These brake shoes was made by gold? Obviously you paid too much for everything. Half hour job, it means they charge 200eur per hour. Keep away from that garage and learn DIY

irishguy19772

Thanks. Won't go back again. Got done so. Service and those repairs came to 340.

Dirty Nails

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058237090/cost-of-repairs

Something wrong about your story, Unless you can buy brake shoes in half sets.

Atlantic Dawn

For context was it a main dealer, independent, fella operating out of a shed?

irishguy19772

Well no. He said it took him nearly 2 hours labour to change the brake cylinder and the brake shoes. It was 100 euro for the parts and then 100 for the labour for brakes. This was on his charge sheet.

I queried this with him over the phone (he wad not in the garage when I collected car) but he was adamant this was how long it took him.

I did not know any different, so paid. That is why I was querying on here, needed to know if it is a place to avoid in future

irishguy19772

It was a legit garage. For context. Not a main dealer

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118776861#Comment_118776861

No way should that job take a qualified mechanic 2 hours to do, he’s pulling your leg.

irishguy19772

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See price list attached

irishguy19772

Thanks. Service and those brake repairs came to 340.

irishguy19772

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irishguy19772

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Shoes is bit over priced but look the wheel cylinders 70eur. These cost about 8eur each, total 16eur. Did you ordered to replace wheel cylinders? Typically garages "force" you buy new if they screw things up, like damage the bleeding screw.

2 hours including rest of the jobs...too slow.

Toyotafanboi

Irishguy, it's important to know you're basically being trolled by some posters above. It's a terrible state of affairs on this forum recently.

Yoh didn't pay thr cheapest price in the world but if it was from a legit business with a VAT receipt etc it doesn't sound like a terrible price.

Two things to consider in retaliation to the above.

- Changing a full set of rear brake shoes and wheel cylinders does not take half an hour an even if it did, the garage wouldn't be in business long if that's all they charged you.

The last thing you want is an €8 wheel cylinder. Whh would you want to fit the cheapest crap you can find online to thr brakes on your car. A legit garage will be fitting higg quality parts and even if they could get a cylonder for €8, why on earth would they sell if for that.

Tl;dr, you paid a middling price. If you got a vat invoice and good quality parts i dont think you done badly at all.

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118777667#Comment_118777667

The parts are reasonable but the labour was steep he probably went slightly over the hour and decided to charge for 2 hours.

AuldDaysul

Some of the replies here are ridiculous, price seems ok to me. 30 minutes to do all that 🤣, from the minute I picked up the key, up on lift, wheels off, to actually start working, 30 minutes could have passed, not to mention time taken to source parts and get them ready etc, then dealing with rust and rot or any issues like that. You got a full service and rear brakes sorted for €340. Not bad at all, if you are complaining to them about it then I reckon they might be glad you won't be a returning customer. I cant see much wrong on that receipt but sure what do I know, the experts say you were ripped off.

ronaneire

Irishguy, you never said the make/model of car. I have to laugh when you are being told you paid too much for the parts and labour.

Couple of things that needs consideration. You used a small business, they have bills too. Rent, rates, electricity, phones and waste but to name a few. It costs money to have your spent oil taken away. He didn't charge you for and brake fluid? He would have to bleed out your brakes after fitting the brake cylinder.

The total labour on your car is €140.00. If they are charging €75.00 per hour, total labour is 2 hours. Doesn't seem bad. Also, the VAT charged is nothing to do with him. What you paid seems fair. At least you know the brakes are sorted and your car is serviced for another while.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118777667#Comment_118777667

You call Hella Pagid wheel cylinder to garbage? One of the best on the market!

Toyotafanboi

Would you ever be quiet, you dont even know what car he has. You're just pulling numbers out of your arse.

As someone who has a clue what they are on about, €35 each incl. VAT for a good quality wheel cylinder is, generally speaking, not a bad price, without knowing the specifics of OP's car.

Dakota Dan

Let’s assume it’s an older smaller car as they used drum brakes, we’ll say it’s a Yaris. You can get complete brake kit including cylinders for €62 from Bosch and an hour tops to fit them, independent garages charge €45-€50/hour, that’s €112 for the brake job.

vandriver

I got full service with all filters and front pads for 350 .

Didn't query it for a second.

I realize that in the real world of legitimate VAT charging businesses,they have high costs that need to be recouped.

Toyotafanboi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118778586#Comment_118778586

But a mechanic isn't going to sell you parts for what he buys them for?? That'd be a terrible business.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118778285#Comment_118778285

Until you do not use F1 (yes they used on early years the drum brakes), truck or van brake shoes or wheel cylinders, the price remains the same range.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118778701#Comment_118778701

That is why no any garage allows the customer parts. They want to earn money from parts sale and big times. Buy parts from Germany and you get 2-3 times cheaper than garage offers for you. More reasons to do DIY

Toyotafanboi

Imagine, a business looking to make money.

It's all well and good getting this shite online or from other coutries or whatever but the reality is that if OP drops his car off at 9am and needs his car back by 5pm the mechanic isn't going to go **** around looking at bargain basement options online, or ordering an MOQ of 1000 pieces from China, he's going to call a motor factors that has the part, in existance, in real life in the next town and pay a fair price for the ready availability.

There is a cost associated with getting the fooking job done. You aren't talking real world.

LollipopJimmy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118778786#Comment_118778786

That's all irrelevant. You talk some pony.

The price was reasonable.

Hellrazer

Im with Toyotafanboi and Aulddaysul here - that price is a decent price for a full service, rear shoes and cylinders.

If anything Id say its a on the lower end of what I would charge but Im in a main dealer so Id be a bit higher than an Indy .

You done well for a full service and brakes. I wouldnt be changing mechanics over that price.

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118778701#Comment_118778701

I always buy parts that my mechanic fits, the only time he’d buy a part is if something else is worn and he doesn’t find it until he takes it apart.

irishguy19772

Thanks guys for the advice. If was a 00 corolla.

irishguy19772

Appreciate all the advice. Will stick with this mechanic so.

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118778811#Comment_118778811

On the other hand you could argue with, imagine someone wanting to save money. I had to get a rear trailing arm for a quashqai last month that were all out of stock in Ireland and I’d have to wait 2 weeks for it to be restocked. I rang the main dealer to get the part number and to see their price it was €800 including Vat no fitting just the part I ended up getting the same part new on eBay for €116 including delivery. I get that garages have to make money bit sometimes they chance their arms as in the case above, that money is better off in my pocket than theirs.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118778822#Comment_118778822

That is the problem, this is not the business section!

Toyotafanboi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118779819#Comment_118779819

No, that's the problem with you.

DIY section or not, you should read the OP's question and you give a helpful answer. They were asking did the invoice seen fair. Not what would it cost if they done the work DIY.

What you were doing them was misleading them into thinking they paid too much by comparing their invoice to a non like for like scenario.

You do it the whole time, in fairness. It's slight, underhanded trolling.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118779883#Comment_118779883

Yes he paid too much

Prices - Fancy Brembo brake shoes for that car cost 15eur.

Wheel cylinders price start from 5eur each. Because it is japan brand (nobody did not said made in Japan, factory location does not matter) the more known brands cost bit more. TRW 11eur, Brembo 12eur each. I looked very last page where was AISIN and even that price was 27eur each only. There is no 35each wheel cylinders on market.

Toyotafanboi

Did you ring a motor factors on a Sunday afternoon for those prices or are we googling again? Because OP's mechanic didn't buy the bits from google.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780146#Comment_118780146

I have my own account to check the prices. I do not need to call anyone.

Toyotafanboi

Ah stop, sure we all have an eBay account. You'd be better off pricing local, being the local car mechanic and all that.

Pedopriest

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780313#Comment_118780313

At least your signature makes sense about yourself..

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118779558#Comment_118779558

IMO I think he is being fair enough. ya he has a bit of a mark up on the cylinders and the oil but the rest of the materials are fairy on the ball. His labour charge is not out of theway either. The biggest theing about these smaller operators is while hey charge a small bit extra for smaller jobs they will often do larger jobs at a smaller mark up.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780344#Comment_118780344

No, not the ebay. From ebay you can get by 3eur, because production cost max 1eur.

AuldDaysul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780313#Comment_118780313

You're clearly just looking at autodoc, £5 for ridex cylinder, £27 for aisin, don't forget the £26 delivery charge and the 2 week wait for your cheap cheap parts. Im sure the OP wouldn't mind waiting 2 weeks for his car back. More waffles indeed.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780501#Comment_118780501

Oil is really over priced. Do you know what oil most of the garages use on that type of cars? That oil cost 2eur per liter included tax. That oil is recycled garbage. Garages can sell it because nobody ever ask what oil was used, only the price is important factor. Luckily that business will end soon. Just last 3 years production cars can not handle that kind of garbage.

Toyotafanboi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780592#Comment_118780592

Yet again though, none of that has any relevance to OP's situation.

Utter nonsense.

barneygumble99

Definitely a fair price for the work involved. Although it doesn’t seem to be itemised he obviously added to price of replacement brake fluid into the price of something else which is normal. Brake shoes not always a straight forward job if you’ve got a lip on the inside of the drum.

irishguy19772

Thank you for the advice here.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780693#Comment_118780693

You are the one that is waffling. most independents use decent oil. They buy in bulk get a discount anf then can make a decent margin. I mainly buy my own oil as My mechanic wants t remain un registeration. Most smaller independents go to a local motor factors to buy parts. They get a small discount or credit not both. Not sure how much a 20L drum last time I bought it was 85 euro. I buy rheinol, guess what it was the mechanic I use that put it on to me. Its works out a 4.25/L it probably gone up at present. Ya this guy is making a margin and charging 5L drum prices but main dealer are charging 15-20/L. saw a BMW docket latly 20/L. However he has to dispose of the waste oil, not sure how much it costs but its no longer free. There was a few lads taking it for waster oil burners but most of these have stopped as the burners give a bit of trouble especially if anything wrong with the oil.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780784#Comment_118780784

Dealers use the 100% right oil too, what can last the recommended mileages. Aftermarket oils, better replace earlier than later. Way earlier, not over 7 000km. These garage discount oils fails after 5 000km. Add a dirt cheap garbage oil filter and you have a perfect disaster. Ask every time the oil brand, rating etc They can lie but at least you can document everything.

Hellrazer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118780006#Comment_118780006

You really are full of ****. Theres no 35 euro each wheel cylinders on the market??

Here Euro car parts have cylinders for 58 each less my trade discount.

You dont know what brand was fitted to the Ops car - they could have been genuine Toyota for all you know.

You argue on every single thread here and think you know everything. Im getting seriously pissed off with you and to be honest Im not going to bother posting in this forum anymore until you cop the **** on. Youve destroyed the enjoyment in this forum single handedly and pissed off a lot of the regular users here.

Im out of here- If anyone wants advice on the brands I deal with feel free to PM me.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118781419#Comment_118781419

Nice, you found most expensive website. Congratulation! Exactly the same things cost way, way cheaper. Exact manufacturer, exact part number, no fake. I am sure most of the ebay buyers never asked why their goods is insane cheap? Exactly, there is tons of fake things on the market. Do not start to blame me, this is not my fault. Tomorrow can be international LCM fault day, but do not start to blame me about fake parts or fake parts buyers greed.

100% related by OP story...if something is too cheap, ask the first questions from yourself not from seller. Official supply channels does not have a fake.