Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

beachhead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831499#Comment_122831499

Shop around and see

_BAA_RAM_EWE

water power gone up to 30c. ouch, switch time.

CoBo55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122843814#Comment_122843814

Including Vat? Is that their 24hr rate? That's scaldy.

_BAA_RAM_EWE

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122843927#Comment_122843927

24hr including vat.

_BAA_RAM_EWE

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122843927#Comment_122843927

flogas is best for me going by bonkers. They have the wrong standing charge on their site when you look at the calculations but it still works out 330 euro cheaper for the year using the national average figures.

https://www.flogas.ie/price-plans/residential/

CoBo55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122843997#Comment_122843997

If you have a smart meter energypal might give you a more accurate recommendation, FG have crept up a bit, they were 23.44c when I left them (inc vat) for their 12 month fixed rate.

_BAA_RAM_EWE

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122844012#Comment_122844012

Energy pal has this smart electric saver 30 just pipping FG by 25ish euro. Don't particularity want to activate smart though so FG it is.

https://www.electricireland.ie/switch/new-customer/price-plans?priceType=E

zell12

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122843814#Comment_122843814

D 32.54c N 19.98 😑

Mumser

It also looks like Flow Gas are currently the best for dual fuel and our usage.

Our contract expires tonight. I've read here of people waiting for Black Friday deals. Is that a thing?

I know when I switched to SSE last year there were all sorts of delays and confusion re when the contracts started but I can't remember if I switched with their site directly or not. So does anyone know is it better to switch provider using Bonkers or directly via the provider website?

I want to ensure I stay on a 24hour plan even though I have an unactivated smart meter.

Finally, has anyone made a better deal by calling around the suppliers than what the websites show?

Many thanks for any help.

zell12

Switch through the supplier directly, as bonkers.ie get a commission which has no benefit to you

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122847187#Comment_122847187

if it's the same to you, I don't know why you wouldn't give them the commission. It's a useful website

OmegaGene

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122847403#Comment_122847403

spot on 👍🏻 if nobody switches through the likes of bonkers then it won’t exist

They also have exclusive cash back offers and deals now and then

autumnalcore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122846225#Comment_122846225

Inevitable I suppose

CoBo55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122847187#Comment_122847187

I got a great deal on my BB through One big switch, why would you begrudge any site their bit of commission?

TJJP

Hi all, just for info.

I’m coming off BG 25% rate, simple numbers here (i.e. not inc. PSO levy, carbon tax as they are the same for all). All non-smart (24hr) urban rates.

Dual fuel	E Rate	Standing		G Rate	Standing		Cashback
SSE Airtricity	0.2353	240.98		0.0828	152.29
Yuno Energy	0.2396	219.22		0.0821	150.03
Electric Ireland	0.2433	250.77		0.0815	155.96		-40
Bord Gais	0.2749	218.55		0.0838	131.69		-100
Energia	0.2590	236.62		0.0765	141.60
FloGas	0.2897	257.37		0.0881	151.19		-300

At my average use, for dual fuel combined, including cashback, pso, carbon, estimated bill is much of muchness:

ELEC	Tot Bill	Rate		GAS	Tot Bill	Rate		Total
Yuno Energy	1396.11	0.2396		Yuno Energy	1105.24	0.08219		2501.35
Electric Ireland	1405.21	0.2433		Electric Ireland	1104.25	0.08151		2509.46
SSE Airtricity	1397.74	0.2353		SSE Airtricity	1114.20	0.08284		2511.94
FloGas	1371.72	0.2897		FloGas	1167.83	0.08818		2539.55
Energia	1505.40	0.2590		Energia	1038.74	0.07652		2544.13
Bord Gais	1462.73	0.2749		Bord Gais	1103.42	0.08380		2566.15

Electric Ireland comes out best of the traditional providers. But they cut their prices on 1st Nov, and others may drop in future.

Going with single suppliers, for Elec and Gas, throws up as follows:

Single fuel	E Rate	Standing		G Rate	Standing		Cashback
Energia Elec Only	0.2361	236.62	SSE Gas Only	0.0824	152.31

ELEC	Tot Bill	Rate		GAS	Tot Bill	Rate		Total
Energia	1397.02	0.2361		SSE Airtricity	1109.71	0.08240		2506.73

So Energia and SSE is marginally cheaper over the year for me, compared to Elec Ireland Dual, and if there are future price reductions, this offer might pay off. My elec use is also more variable, so I’m more interested in elec rate rather than the gas rate.

Probably all far too much work to save only €50 (-:

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852202#Comment_122852202

Probably all far too much work to save only €50 (-:

Bonkers does all of this for you.

You're missing the FloGas BWG deal:
https://www.flogas.ie/price-plans/bwg-affinity-rate-res-offer/detail.html?fuelType=electricity&offerId=49&availability=new_customers

TJJP

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852416#Comment_122852416

'Bonkers does all of this for you'. Yup, I know that, so does switcher.ie. It's clearer here for others who might want to see it. That's the point of this thread, I think.

'You're missing the FloGas BWG deal'. Yup, I got shafted on that before, still going through CRU to get it sorted.

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852463#Comment_122852463

How did you get shafted?

Garfin

I'm currently on EI 10% EnergySaver 24hr meter Rural, using Bonkers and Switcher are Flogas looking like the best saving st the moment?

ongarite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852202#Comment_122852202

FYI. Those tables are completely broken when using phone or tablet. It looks like the matrix with vertically scrolling numbers.

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852640#Comment_122852640

If bonkers is throwing up Flogas as the cheapest, look at their BWG deal. Likely cheaper again:

https://www.flogas.ie/price-plans/bwg-affinity-rate-res-offer/detail.html?fuelType=electricity&offerId=49&availability=new_customers

Garfin

Thanks I'll have a look, is it still best practice to avoid moving to smart plans from 24hr plan on a smart meter unless you can take advantage with an EV etc?

Garfin

That link looks like dual fuel only, this one from FloGas electricity only looks the best bet as far as I can see staying with the 24hr rate

26% Discount Single Electricity with €220 cashback

Unit RateCent per kWh27.42(inc. VAT)

Standing ChargeAnnual€257.38(inc. VAT)

PSO LevyAnnual€42.25(inc. VAT)

EAB Estimated Annual Bill€1,451.12(inc. VAT)

Year 1 CostIncludes €220 cashback€1,231.12(inc. VAT)

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852769#Comment_122852769

Elec only is available as well:
https://www.flogas.ie/price-plans/bwg-affinity-rate-res-offer/detail.html?fuelType=electricity&offerId=58&availability=new_customers

If your usage is below (approx) 5500 units a year. Then the cashback deal is better.

If your usage is above (approx) 5500 unis a year. Then the BWG (Affinity) deal is better.

If its in anyway close, I'd be of the view the non-cashback deal is better. If you break contract, the exit fee is €50 with no cashback but effectively €270 with cashback as they can clawback the offer for breaking early.

Your usage is around 4200(?), in which case, the cashback deal will save you an additional €50 compared to the BWG deal.

TJJP

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852664#Comment_122852664

Thanks, fine on PC, must be a boards issue, I tried plain text but it was too messy without tables.

newincity

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122852679#Comment_122852679

Can you please share what does BWG stands here?

Kaisr Sose

Its a food retail company

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122853092#Comment_122853092

As Kaisr says, its a good retail company. The Flogas offer is for employees of certain companies. However, FloGas simply don't check and anyone can sign up via the link (but not over the phone). See in the link bwg-affinity-rate i.e. a rate designed for them. They have others e.g. Golf Ireland, Brennans but they're all very similar.

bromley52

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122853092#Comment_122853092

https://www.bwg.ie/our-brands/

garyskeepers

Heres my story. I'll make it as short as I can.

2 months ago, after a LOT of back and forth, I left Prepay Power for Energia. Even though Prepay power offered my 500 euro credit to stay, I moved, simply because i wanted to take advantage of their Free EV Car charging installation and smart meter. Oh i wish i had stayed with Prepay power.

So, I don't recall giving a Closing reading to Prepay power, nor did I provide Energia with an opening reading. So after a month when I entered in my reading into the energia system, i got a bill for 800 and odd units, when I usually use 400 and odd MAX.

Ive been a few weeks now arguing with Energia, as they keep telling me i need photographic evidence of the reading on the opening day (using that days paper or a shop receipt) I keep telling them that no such photo exists. I have shown them evidence that I only used 408 Units in September as it says so in my meter. Granted ,the billing period is from 5th September to 3rd October. But if all i used in September is 408, it stands to reason that the other 450 units they are charging for the period is WAY off. But i just cant seem to get through to them.

Ive asked for proof that I gave them an incorrect opening reading, which they havent provided, and to make matters worse, they said that's not one of their meters, and they need a photo of the meter that's outside, that's not working. It's a huge hulabaloo and i could go into the sheer lunacy of the hoops im trying to jump through.

Icing on the cake. I found out after I signed up, that My meter doesn't provide enough power to get a smart meter, therefore, I cant even get the car charger in. I turned down 500 euro in credit, just to be overcharged by 100% and then treated like an idiot on countless phone calls and emails.

Im 2 seconds away from cancelling my direct debit and putting in a mandate to get the money back from the bill that was overcharged.

Anyone experienced this before>?