Eddie Hobbs

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666507#Comment_118666507

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Thargor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666407#Comment_118666407

Horsesh*t, I've worked for multinationals all my life and all the 'execs' are Irish.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666557#Comment_118666557

You're reading to much of the irish indo and buying into their anti SF agenda. Its time for change.

So by your logic keep looking after the American Execs, not sure if they really exist myself, and let people forget about ever having a home of their own. All because they are lucky enough to commute 3 hours a day to google or intel.

Multinationals wont pull out. They will hire Irish execs like they have done for years. Eddie and a lot of people need to get ready. A SF government is imminent.

EmmetSpiceland

If a SF government is, indeed, imminent is there any way to have the, more sensitive, documents relating to the Troubles, and beyond, made classified and locked away from everyone, including the government, until they are gone?

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666619#Comment_118666619

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Bass Reeves

The great Warren Buffet has a saying if you lose money somewhere go back and have a good look around it might find it is still there.

If Eddie&co had invested his funds in the Irish property market from 2011/12 on and transferred it into a REIT he be acclaimed as a financial genius and a Maverick. But he did not.

He made his name by exposing the endowment mortgage scandal and was one of the first financial advisers to come out against the product in some he 90's. Rip off Ireland came after and his program.advising couple to have massive wedding and turn a profit on the cash gifts.

By the late noughties he had lost his allure to me. People who invested had probably gambled on 2-3 other such ventures if one succeeds you have you money back and more.

There was other bigger financial scandals such as Custom House Capital at least Eddie and Co invested the money.

Now he is only trying to promote a book so he will s back trying to use his profile. It's probably rubbish so I be slow to buy it. He is just a other anti vaxers that is full of his own importance

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666619#Comment_118666619

Why are Sinn Fein objecting to houses all over Dublin?

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666438#Comment_118666438

The bearded guy is Ivor "FatEmperor" Cummins. He's amassed 150k followers on Twitter over the Pandemic. Before Covid he used flog keto-diet plans. He transitioned to anti lockdown, anti-mask and anti-vaccine content and makes his money selling Patreon subscriptions.

The younger woman is Tracey O' Mahoney. She's a barrister who raised a lot of money from her anti-vaxx followers to fight the government about covid restrictions. Given that most of those have gone a lot of people have been asking her recently where that money has gone. (She doesn't look like she's going to be returning it). She's ex-Renua, which might explain the Eddie Hobbs connection.

The other two are anti-vaxx GPs. The female GP is from the North and the male is from Limerick. He recently took part in that Men's Rosary that drowned out the women's vigil in the wake of the Ashling Murphy murder.

The whole thing was organised by the anti-vaxxer who aggressively "interviewed" Pat Kenny in the park a few months ago.

So yeah, quite the esteemed circles Hobbs had been moving in prior to RTE and the Sunday Independent taking the odd step to try and rehabilitate him.

Hangdogroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666821#Comment_118666821

Keeping good company then , a shower of grifting cnunts.

Francie Barrett

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118664427#Comment_118664427

It was poor judgement alright. He had a nice gig as a champion of the Irish consumer and should have been content with that. Instead he blew up his reputation on that crazy property scheme. Even if he wasn't directly involved, how could anyone ever trust him again after that?

Thinkingaboutit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666407#Comment_118666407

Likely any Sinn Féin government (or one with them) would just gouge middle class people (someone moving to a house, but keeping their flat for renting, say), the traditional thing, which people tried to push back against with the PAYE marches in the early 80s. Using the example from Canada any new PAYE protest would be deplatformed as hate thinking Nazism. SF will do whatever suits SF, like all politicians. Politicians don't attack rich people, whom they would see as new friends and donors.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666886#Comment_118666886

I'm anti SF or any populist party ('what you want? You got it, sure you shouldn't ask for more - you deserve it') - But, it's the middle class that vote (not the SW class and the rich aren't numerous enough) and SF will do what SF in NI do and other parties do when they get into government - the one thing that they might do differently is borrow heavy to appease those they promised the sun, moon and stars.

If Eddie Hobbs is anti SF it's simply a stopped clock is occasionally right.

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666407#Comment_118666407

I'd say Hobbs is wrong, SF are not PBP, they won't kill the golden goose so the multinationals won't flee.

I'd be more concerned about consultants and doctors in the HSE leaving or deciding not to come here as its the middle class who will get taxxed hard

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666480#Comment_118666480

Depends on a number of things, plenty of people do very well from their property investments ,beit because they bought during a period of relative value or didn't over leverage themselves

Regrettably Ireland is not at all friendly towards investing in equity funds

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118667091#Comment_118667091

People who do well in property are generally people who are in the property business as opposed to investing in property. Most of the property funds marketed in Ireland are not suitable for the typical investor looking to add a little property to an asset allocation to improve the overall performance of a portfolio.

Irish voters believe a housing policy based on people being required to take on huge debt or rely on social services to put a roof over their head is a good idea and until that changes there is not much change of a more favorable approach to encouraging other forms of wealth accumulation. And I suspect we’re a long way from the level of pain necessary to motivate people to consider alternatives.

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118667359#Comment_118667359

Not that I was referring to people who invested in Irish REITs but why are those not suitable?

Effects

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118663397#Comment_118663397

No.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666557#Comment_118666557

since there has always been lower tax regions for mnc's, ive always wondered, why havent they moved already?

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118667612#Comment_118667612

They're here as a bribe (from the US to Ireland) in exchange for deniable political influence. The prospect of these multinationals up and leaving is a constant lever in political matters.

They intervene indirectly in every Irish constitutional referendum via IBEC announcing they will exit in the event of a 'No' vote.

They are now intervening in general elections and trying to decide the formation of the next government.

That's pretty much the deal, and most Irish people have accepted (American-style) political liberalism on these unspoken terms.

Of course you can still vote for SF if you want. I've no idea if they're bluffing about leaving, maybe they will leave.

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666680#Comment_118666680

What's your job? What conversations are you having? With who?

For all we know you could be the bloke that fills the vending machine in a hospital, and you're having conversations about multinational company executives with the guy who folds the sheets. Your "real, very real" warning means nothing if you can't back it up. And you're not off to a very good start by claiming that all the execs of the multinationals have to "move here".

The top (and only) income tax rate in Hungary is a mere 15%. Why aren't all the multinationals already gone from here and set up there if the main driver for their existence is to get a decent rate of tax for their executives?

Thinkingaboutit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666907#Comment_118666907

The thing you mention about voting needs to be highlighted. A lot of people who say they'll vote SF, don't, or don't vote in general. They might say SF so as not to be cast into the 'don't knows' oblivion, but a strong (not entirely unwarranted) feeling that all pols are the same, and a reluctance to vote among a number of socio-economic groups could well see a lot of the poll response not last as far as the polling station. Another thing is that I reckon some of older parties, even Labour are quite good, perhaps better, at scraping out every bit of supportive sentiment. Now I know that SF are all business if someone has a problem and make sure to follow up, which spreads good sentiment about them, but the key thing are efforts to get out the vote at GE and by-election time.

It is quite possible that a SF government or major coalition partner could switch into full Bertie / Gay Byrne mode with something for everyone in the audience. I even doubt they'll do much about investment funds, who for all their faults, actually build some stuff. We will see. Ireland cannot survive Bertienomics or variants that have long plagued this country.

anewme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118663469#Comment_118663469

Why would you even laugh about people who lost their life savings? Mostly working class people.

Brendan Investments was not about property in Detroit, as already said, the objective initially was to invest in European Investments. It was very slick and it was easy to see how people were sucked in.

Celtic Tiger era was absolutely crazy time and the crash was a horrible time. I know people who did not get through it.

Laughing at people Is not needed

anewme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118664223#Comment_118664223

What is SSRA?

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118670779#Comment_118670779

It was the silliest example of Celtic Tiger investing that I ever heard of.

But yes viewed in the cold light of day it isn't funny.

As long as no one will ever again trust Eddie Hobbs or Brendan O'Connor or the P.R. techniques used to rehabilitate their image, or fall hook line and sinker for new investing scams, then lesson learned.

anewme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118670806#Comment_118670806

It was not that outlandish at the time.

I remember Ciaran Maguire and Flash Developments being featured on the Late Late Show and being presented as legit. With their branded Fleet of 747’s.

That was probably the most extreme, and still many people lost money.

CGI_Livia_Soprano

How anyone can complain about the housing crisis and then show sympathy towards people who fell for Eddie Hobbs's Brendan Investments con is beyond me. The housing crisis is a direct result of people trying to fill their boots with property so that they can sell them later on for a profit.

I have absolutely zero sympathy for anyone who gets burned trying to get rich off the back of flipping property. Whether it be Bulgaria or Dublin, or t'whither the investor is a faceless Dutch multinational or John Paul the Sixpack in his Man United jersey, people who personally enrich themselves through housing are scum.

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118666821#Comment_118666821

" anti vaxx " seems to be a broad church ?

has Eddie Hobbs simply questioned the level of restrictions this past two years along with the restrictions on the unvaccinated in terms of being allowed into restaurants etc or is he a full on " Bill Gates wants us all dead " type ?

because the former is perfectly legitimate in my view , pushback against big government policies are healthy , " anti vaxx " is usually just a lazy slur

not a fan of the man otherwise

Hangdogroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118671935#Comment_118671935

Why do anti vaxxers have such an issue with the term anti vaxx?

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118671996#Comment_118671996

I have an issue with most dopey slogans

loaded questions too

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118671935#Comment_118671935

He has gone to great pains to point out that he himself is not anti-vaxx. Regardless of his own personal views on the matter, sitting down with such an obvious bunch of cranks and grifters is a major red flag. If he wants to have a theoretical discussion on the finer points of vaccines and lockdowns then that's fine, but doing that with Dolores Cahill and Ivor Cummins is not the way to go. Given that he's a well known figure the very fact of him joining them elevates them to a higher level, allowing them spread disinformation with greater ease.

It wasn't a one-off either. He appeared alongside Ivor Cummins on at least one other occasion.