Census 2022

igCorcaigh

I like the time capsule section.

What should I write... #StandWithUkraine ?

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118794337#Comment_118794337

Sounds like a bit of a Gemma rant

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118794337#Comment_118794337

All Census data is totally confidential. You have nothing to worry about.

(well, until 100 years later).

Fritzbox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118795989#Comment_118795989

Once you have complied with GDPR "linking up" the various government departments should be possible? Don't state organisations on the continent do it all the time?

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118810201#Comment_118810201

Nope, data sharing between public bodies requires either explicit legislation (Revenue generally have rights to everything, others generally don’t) or an explicit data sharing agreement which must comply with GDPR, and have either a legislative basis for processing or consent.

stopthevoting

Is a group of people sharing a house or apartment considered one household? For example, if there is a group of four or five unrelated people renting together, will the Enumerator just give them one form, or will they give a separate form for each person? Some people might prefer to keep some details confidential from their housemates, such as Q15, health conditions, or Q12, religion, or maybe even any of the other questions.

So I am guessing that there would be a separate form provided for each housemate. Is this correct?

And then if anyone wanted to ensure confidentiality after Census night, they would have to send back the form by post, instead of leaving it out until the Enumerator returned to collect the forms.

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118844207#Comment_118844207

Nope, it's one form per household. Anyone sharing would be considered part of it

Zebra3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118799522#Comment_118799522

Yep, but nothing about Palestine or Yemen.

Badly Drunk Boy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118794337#Comment_118794337

Is that little rant what you're writing in the time capsule section? If not, you should! 🧐



mrcheez

not sure this is the right forum... but..eh, this is the only census thread I can find.

I have to do a bit of work on 3 April, so will be out of the house all day, but back around 11pm. That's fine for filling in the form right.. as in don't need to be in the property all day?

Victor

It's about where you spend the night or arrive the next morning.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118858462#Comment_118858462

or Ethiopia, or Myanmar, or ...

mrcheez

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118866448#Comment_118866448

grand... and it's collected at some later point in the week I assume

For Forks Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118799522#Comment_118799522

Mrs OBumble

So who else hasn't got a form yet?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118867325#Comment_118867325

Call them.

FortuneChip

We rang them earlier in the week and they just shrugged it off. Didn't ask anything about where we were living or anything.

Said we could just send it on after we've received it, and it's grand.

Also submitted the request form online and received an automated response to say they'd respond with 48 hours - nothing.

Leg End Reject

https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0401/1289809-census-form/

Burt Renaults

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118867325#Comment_118867325

I haven't, and I'm not bothered chasing it either. I presume it can be filled out retrospectively, since they're usually still collecting forms until well into May. I can't believe that, in 2022, there isn't an option to complete it online.

stargazer 68

Have they hired less enumerators this time around? The amount of households with no form yet is surprising. We only got ours yesterday- never saw our enumerator on the road before that and never received a calling card either

I was an enumerator for the last 2 census and by this time all forms had to have been delivered. By the week before you should have been almost finished and were questioned if you weren't.

New system maybe?

NIMAN

Listening to the radio adverts for the census, we get the usual line of "this data will allow us to plan services for the future".

So how come in the years following each census it always looks like there is zero planning of government services around the country?

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118661469#Comment_118661469

It's absolutely moronic though. 3 pages of questions for people there on the night and 1/3 a page for absent. Why does it not matter the occupation of the absent lad, how he gets to work or where he may or may not pray.

Also you can only tick 1 form of transport for getting to work. So if you cycle to your train and then cycle after or spend half the year getting the bus and the better months walking you can't answer.

Very little or no options for the many people who now work 2 jobs equally too.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118867376#Comment_118867376

I’ve seen enumerators on the streets both evenings this evening and last evening, so they are still working on it.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118867779#Comment_118867779

Have you designed many Censuses yourself? Did you ever think that the people who’ve been designing the questions for decades know a bit more about it than you?

Unless you actually live at the train station, which isn’t very likely, you’re going to be using some other form of transport to and from the station.

So they already know that you have a secondary mode of travel. They COULD ask additional questions about the secondary mode, but that is additional complexity, additional space on the form, additional data entry costs, for what is probably little benefit,

You don’t know the reasons for all of their design decisions. That doesn’t mean that they are moronic.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118867881#Comment_118867881

Im surprised you of all people don't understand the importance of what I am talking about. If someone drives in the bad weather months and cycles for the good weather ones but decides only being able to tick one they tick car that's one less bike on the road according to stats.

Same if train is picked as the one mode even though half the journey is on the bike from Heuston to the job.

I walk, bus or cycle in equal amounts depending on what takes my fancy that morning so ya the question is moronic. It should be tick all appropriate modes of transport.

Same for the job. Up until a few months ago I worked 2 completely different types of job at an equal 20hr 20hr split but can only fill in one.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118867976#Comment_118867976

I well understand the importance. I also understand that EVERY research question involves compromises. Some people use three modes of transport, does that mean we need to ask three questions? You could say the same about every question. There is always an extra question that can be asked, but every extra question comes at a price- extra space, extra data entry, extra processing. So they have to draw the line somewhere.

Thats not moronic. That’s basic survey design.

Quantum Erasure

I wonder how they're going to approach the sex / gender question next time... I'd nearly say they'll leave it as it is,

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118868540#Comment_118868540

And what about the bit where people out of the house count less. Do you not find that to be a bit stupid.

plodder

Why doesn't the census form say what night is 'census night'?

Seems like a bizarre omission.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118869268#Comment_118869268

they'll be counted somewhere else