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Bullies aren't cowards, They're brave because they're strong

  • 18-02-2022 08:32PM
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    Change my mind



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,284 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Bullies purposely pick on people they perceive as vulnerable/weaker than them. That is not a sign of real strength, it indicates a truly insecure and weak minded coward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭stellamere


    Presumably, like the general population, bullies are not all the same. They come in all shapes and sizes and use different means of bullying, some are in your face and some are passive aggressive. Why they Bully is anyone's guess, but it must satisfy some need or otherwise make them feel good about themselves. I think it would be foolish to generalise and say that they are all cowards, maybe someone else knows of some studies which prove otherwise?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭rtron


    Do bullies know they are bullies?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,087 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    You should actually use Google to find out what a bully is first, you clearly haven't done that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    It is called 'flexing', usually carried out by men in the mid tier social status range. In American media culture the bully was always seen as the big Chad football quarterback but in reality a man like this has no reason to bully. He is already at the top.

    The real bullies are the mid tier people who aren't the best looking or the best sportsmen. They feel the need to pick on the lowest popular people (like me) so they can look strong in front of the girls.

    People try to cope by saying "bullies will be losers", this is usually nonsense. If this was the case then bullying wouldn't exist in city offices or high tier schools which is does.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,757 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Bullies are aggressive and dominating be cause the are strong…. Now go away and learn what brave actually means.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah I'm inclined to agree. Lots of rich, powerful and high status people are bullies. We tend to recognise their success and attribute it to other factors than bullying, but i'd say bullying is a pretty successful strategy. The higher status the person, the less likely their bullying is to be recognised as bullying. High status bullies are more likely to be called things like assertive, abrasive, don't take nonsense and tell it like it is.

    There's great schadenfreude in seeing a bully turn out to be a miserable looser in a low status job, but I'm sure lots of them turn out to be wealthy and influential and happy.

    Post edited by El_Duderino 09 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,232 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I ALWAYS hated bullies. As I've posted before that I cut the shyte out of one in 1st year ( boxing club paying off ) and that bought me alot of leeway. But I had an inate temperament in be as contrary as possible. Its did me far more harm than good ☹



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    You little attention seeker Ross. Why should I try change your mind? Would you admit you were wrong if I did? 

    Perhaps you don't really understand the meaning of bravery. In theory the brave one is the bullied person who stands up to the bully. That isn't easy. It doesn't take courage to pick on someone the moment you have the upper hand. Change my mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Legit it's bollox. It's a sad realisation when you realise what you thought as a child, that the ones bullying you are just fine. Bullying is less prevalent as you get older but only because of the way we organise ourselves as we age. When people begin to retreat away from groups it is no surprise that bullying falls. But put yourself in any group settling where makes are vying for attention from females, make no mistake bullying is there. It's sad that this is how we are as a species. It always upset me how receptive girls were to this bullshit.

    I'd love to know why people bully others. I've always contended its not to do with feeling of inferiority but more an implicit understanding that that is how you scale the social hierarchy. It's so weird because it shouldn't work, these are the people that nobody likes until you're on their good side. And that's all that matters to them, winning approval from those who matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,643 ✭✭✭touts


    I discovered my bully cried when I hit him with a hurley and stood over him telling him to never come fcuking near me again.

    I discovered I cried when he and his mates found me the following week.

    Bullies might be cowards but they generally move in packs and are stronger than the people they pick on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,601 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Sometimes people who bully other's were bullied themselves and are a product of their environment.

    The irony is, nobody will know, or no bully realises they are a bully.

    The people commenting above about hating bullies etc, may very well bully other's without realising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,232 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Yes and no. I found the bully I hated was also hated by the general school boy crowd. Because he was a bully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭Feisar


    The problem here is you hit them and didn't end it. It is what it is but violence does't happen in a bubble, one either ends it or not however there are repercussions either way. In terms of bullies going for people that are weaker than them that's not exactly the case. I was a big lad when I was a kid but I was mentally soft. I was bullied more than other physically weaker kids. I made a nice target, big soft shite that I was. As I got older I learned the value of violence and the ability to turn it on at a whim when required. But I do mourn the soft boy, he was a nice person.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Bullies just need a strong kick to the bollix. They won't be too brave after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,949 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Anyone who thinks that is a moron.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Bullies that I knew tended to need recognition first from their parents, then peers, etc as being something they weren't. So they target the vunlerable ones to cast that superior image they are always chasing. That is not being brave but a leech.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Walter Sobchak III


    I confronted a bully once. Lost it. Hit him an almighty box in the jaw. Lengthy court case. Sued my ass. Should have just walked away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    Hit them in the Langer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I did my share of bulling. My school had a system where the older boys disciplined the younger boys. For years, you dreamed about being at the top so nobody could bully you and you were able to behave with impunity, jump the queue, throw younger lads off the pitch or pool table, give younger lads a hiding or whatever. When it was my turn, I did it at the start, then i realised it wasn't necessary and I just stopped.

    I was doing grand by that stage and I didn't have any bullies above me. I was reasonably well liked, wasn't loud or anything and was on the rugby tram. So it was easy to get by without bullying anyone. I own up to doing it, but there was a system which you could simply follow and bully your way through school.

    Glad i copped on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,977 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Yeah bullies are often socially dominant types who pile on.

    Adult world social battles usually involve manipulation, lies and withering remarks rather than violence. Because no one wants an assault conviction or to get sued.

    From my observation bullies aren't exactly brave, they just have enough social weight to be able to gang up on people.

    Ultimately bullies can make a lot of enemies which means they can make all kinds of trouble for themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Please stop this referencing to “Chad. “This is not normal Irish Language. I’ve never met a Chad, nor do I expect to before I check out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Everything is being perceived as bullying these days, and it’s getting tiresome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭beerguts


    I was told by a guy a couple of years back that I was a bit of a bully when i was going to secondary school. He told me that I could be intimidating and too rough around them and honestly I was totally taken aback by it and have thought on it often since.

    It never occurred to me at the time and my memories of that period where just having the craic. I was pretty much oblivious I guess while at school and because I never got into fights or was mean in my view it never would have occurred to me.

    I think a lot of the low level bullying that goes on that I now realize I did would be from socially immature people like I was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭Feisar


    "Bullies aren't cowards, They're brave because they're strong" - I wouldn't say they are brave or cowards, people misuse those words all the time. Same with shame, one cannot cast shame on someone it's something people feel internally, anyway back to bullies. It's neither cowardly or brave, it is sensible to pick on someone weaker if that's how one gets their kicks.

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,688 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Bullies rarely act alone or if they do they know that somebody will have their back if the shît hits the fan… not brave, not strong…



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