Will the rental market improve now that restrictions are easing?

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118534327#Comment_118534327

It is so they can say bread only rose by 10% when the 2nd shop raises the price to €1.15 they can claim bread only went up 10%.

0.50+1.00=1.50*1.1=1.65 so reality is people are paying €1.15 as they can't get into the first shop to buy €.050 bread.

If however the first shop went to market rate so €2 for two loaves the percentage would be 33% increase but the price didn't rise by that much to the people buying bread as it was only ever one shop and only those who could get there and get in.

The irish public and understanding of statistic and figures is used against them

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118534032#Comment_118534032

Yes all I would add to that is that I refuse to believe that the convergence between corporate interests and leftism is a coincidence or a mistake.

Simply because we see big corporations working hand in hand with leftists all the time and in multiple ways.

The average tenant did not push out small landlords in favour of big business, the neoliberal-leftist alliance in Government and media did.

I mention this because there is always a hall of mirrors when it comes to who is really responsible. Somehow the people who've made this situation come about (the Government) are to be regarded as blameless - tenants or NGOs or somebody forced FG to favour big business over small business.

Caranica

I agree with the poster who said more people will be coming back to Dublin now that working from home is being rolled back. So demand will increase rather than supply

Ray Palmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118535111#Comment_118535111

What you seem to be doing there is misunderstanding several things at once to come to the wrong conclusion about reality.

When is comes to housing funding in Ireland it is not neoliberal nor left wing. It just isn't what you are calling it because they have restrict the rental market and are not allowing unregulated rent. It is not left wing because it is not building social housing.

The average tenant as members of the general public want landlords more regulated and taxed more. The media report on this and while feeding it they didn't create the view.

The general public will say the government have favoured landlords with regulation as they are mostly landlords in the Dail. Doesn't matter if it is not true and provably so. You are here basically saying this is a plan to enrich themselves which is the the same argument but have no proof of it. Why are they doing what you claim?

You have said in your first line of the post you believe in a conspiracy that doesn't make any sense or have any supporting connection which aren't even a thing. There is no convergence with big business and leftism they are diametrically opposed to each other and is one of the main objections on planning.

The public have and do put pressure on the government who act on it even when the experts tell them not to. The ERSI warned of a housing crisis years before it started and when the government planned to inject money into construction industry the public went crazy. So they didn't and we got a housing crisis. You think nobody renting was part of that public?

Your view to me is just another long list of theories about how the government is intentionally trying to force people to never buy a property. Reality is much simpler the government are trying to appease the people and will not make unpopular/hard choices so they play around with the strategies never achieving anything significant. They do this so they get voted back in.

To absolve the public pressure for dumb decisions is just an opt out and it is very easy to just blame the government for everything. Do you think there would have been a referendum on gay marriage without public pressure? That is how politics work in this country.

redarmyblues

Eoin O Broin has to take a lot of the blame fur Mom n' Pops leaving rental, he keeps muttering about preventing the disorderly exit of landlords, by which he means compel private individuals to be landlords by legislation and that is the biggest incentive for LLs to leave the market ASAP.