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The Shootout 2022 20th - 24th January

  • 20-01-2022 2:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭


    The Shootout started today. 128 players down to 2 for the final Sunday night.

    Coverage on Eurosport. Leicster is the venue. With England's restrictions easing probably be a decent crowd and atmosphere over the weekend.

    Reigning champ Ryan Day is already out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    This is mad stuff!

    I'd never even heard of it before all the promos on Eurosport during the Masters.

    Very entertaining indeed. That 15yr old Welsh youngfella was just brilliant!

    Anyone know how many Irish are in it? I see Ken and Fergal O'Brien listed, but wouldn't know many of the other names on the circuit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Aaron Hill will be there too.

    It counts towards the 1 year list so that matters for the Players Championship in early February as I understand it. For the likes of Selby and Bingham who sit outside the top 16 at the minute.

    Also it attracts ranking points so it should matter to the players down the list/trying to get into the top 64.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Yeah, reading about it, no player in the top 16 at the time has ever won it, so it's a great boost chance for the lower ranked players.

    Most entertaining!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    That overhead 360 camera is horrible, makes me feel seasick 🤢.

    There was a few exciting close games, Shaun Murphy pulled off a great finale to the session!

    The crowd were bad enough by the last game, what on earth will they be like tonight??? 😱

    This is great fun, lovely diversion from tennis overload!



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Watching repeat (I think 😊) of Dale match v Ollie Lines on Eurosport2.. Desi is lovely 😆



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    5 Irish playing tonight - including one all-Irish face-off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    2 from Cork! :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    I like the sweeping camera.

    I see Tatiane lets her down for this event. Getting into the spirit of things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I dunno how they get away with that, Desislava was the same at the Masters with it swinging all over - if I did that, by the end of a single frame the table would be littered with my hair!! Maybe they superglue it first..... 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    nice from Bulman



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    nice from Hill



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Mark 'the Pistol' Allen should be winning this event, but you never know what stumbling block a player will hit.

    Certainly won that first frame in a convincing manner.



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lad needed a snooker there.. managed to get the 4 points, and 'ball in hand' off an in-off, but no way was Saengkham potting 8 balls in just over a minute.. 😁 He gave up after three pots, as had just about 10 seconds left coming to last green..

    No one's ever won a frame in this comp from needing a snooker.. interesting stat that..



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The white don't half seem to travel on the surface,,,,

    Mitchell Mann doing well here, both in safety and potting, as well as showboating 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Just Some Young Lad


    To be honest I'd love if there was a second tournament with this rule format in the calendar. Often I find that in the longer sessions it can be a bit painful to watch two lower ranked players. The shootout is exciting no matter who is at the table.

    Plus: I'd be more of a pool player and it's very similar to a lot of those shootout events and the mosconi cup etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Yan Bingtao out after effectively playing one shot. Unlike other tournaments you still get 250 quid. Although this first round losing fee doesn't count towards ranking points.



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Peter Devlin is reminiscent of a young Dominic Dale... odds on to be going home here though.. Vafaei playing well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    God, the crowd are a monumental PITA at this stage. Makes it unwatchable for me, can't listen to any more of that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Ken too loose there. But squeaks in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Michael Holt knows how to play the shootout for sure. It's a certain gameplan, fascinating game within a game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I'm fascinated with the intricacies of this game/format. It's utterly ingenious!!! Can't believe I'd never heard of it before, but I fell out of watching and following snooker for a long time, only back to it recently.

    Strategy on the table, strategy with the time and timing, skill, a large dollop of luck - and all with a clock literally ticking in your ear! Actually, two clocks!!

    But the crowd destroyed it for me tonight. Why would you even buy tickets for an event and then just go and ballyhoo drunkenly all night long - they weren't even applauding decent shots, were they actually even watching?

    I get that it's not the hushed theatre atmosphere of The Crucible, and it's a fun (but yet serious) event.... but jaysus they've taken it too far the other way IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,812 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    crowd we’re just a load of drunken attention seeking assholes, pity, like you say it’s the only off putting element to it.

    would be much better if they embraced the rules on the table as they are in this format but reverted to ensuring quiet in the audience…

    still be exciting and with a less circus full of gurning clowns vibe be really better…more tension too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    15-yr old youngfella coming up next - wonder can he nick his way through to day 3???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Awww, he was very unlucky in that!! Great safety, just never got the chance to get going.

    At least he had the distinction of having lost in the lowest ever scoring game!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    That Iranian, Vafaei, is a class act!

    Never heard of him, how is he not making the final stages of big comps?? Or maybe he has and I just hadn't heard.... but I think the commentators yesterday mentioned he had trouble getting visas to get to competitions.

    If he gets the rub of the green he has to have a great chance in this, two brilliant breaks in the first two rounds.



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That was an unlucky way of fouling there by Luca - the red not making the pocket 😓 After that, there were plenty there for Blackwell.. Still time!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Aaron Hill got v lucky in that - but made the most of it as well. Clever play!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Great game to end the afternoon between the two Marks!!

    It was all happening in the 10 minutes - fouls, snookers, in-offs, great pots!



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Blue ball shootout!

    Some pink by Kleckers!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi




  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    He didn't panic near business end... took his time playing safe, even with < 2 minutes left, and coolly waited for a chance to claw back the 8 or so points... Paramount to keep your head in this..

    And the 1st winner of the 'BBS' in the comp this year goes to battle here in the Yuan/Young match.. That was a great celebration by Yuan when he beat Ford in the 'Blue Ball Shootout'... nice 'push' by Ford too iirc 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Oh ffs 😡

    That audience should be taken out and shot. With Lei given first go at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I'm amazed at the commentators defending "the atmosphere ".

    When there's an actual material effect on your career, I can see why players would be less than impressed. I wonder have any of them complained about it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Mann up next.... he'll just send the crowd over the edge altogether if last night was anything to go by!



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can't see anymore of these type comps 'going forward' , in the snooker calendar... gives snooker a bad image imo... once a year is plenty 😃.. not much point complaining I'd imagine.. only have the crowd after them the next time/next year, as surely 1 or 2 of the fans would actually remember a certain player complaining, and they'd end up getting more stick.. Unless someone's getting obvious personal abuse; there's not really much scope for the ref to intervene in the 'revelry' imho.. 😃



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Apart from anything else, imagine being in the venue and stuck physically near that gang shrieking and hollering, and your woman screaming 🙉🙉



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    😁



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Come on Michelin Man!!



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I see the ref waited for the white to come to a complete stop at the end of last frame, before he give it to Mitchell 'ball in hand' .. don't do it in lag... Great last pink by Mitchell there.. certainly didn't drop it in..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    The lag (never heard of that before this weekend!) doesn't have any effect on the game itself, though. White keeping rolling runs down the clock on the opponent.

    Presume if you're rushing for points at the end of a game, you have to let all balls come to a halt before your next strike for the same reason?



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  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mon Dave!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    'Mon Ken!!

    (Used to play with my brother, I used to deliver papers to his Mammy 🤣)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi




  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He had his chance alright.. one pot too far alas and Ken's craftiness so crafty, that that mid twenty points points lead, looked like a 45 point lead..

    Think BJ Castle looks a lot like the Fermanagh? Dartist Brendan Dolan, so will wish Billy Joe best of luck here....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    But isn't this the general direction Jack, Judd and Neil want to bring the game.

    I'm a traditionalist I see a place for enjoying this, and the scene at Ally Pally last week, but then when you have your fill of all the boozyness, that's when I want to see the Crucible left exactly as it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    I wouldn't mind the whooping and hollering (so much) if it was even vaguely related to what's going on on the table.

    But it sounds like a gang of blotto lager louts and their bits on the side who think they're the wittiest people on the planet, and wouldn't know a snooker ball if it hit them in the head (one can only wish).

    I've no time for that at the best of times, never mind a snooker game 🙄. It's just painful.



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Come on Leo!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    HOW did that red not drop in??????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Leo shouldn't have been playing that red



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Different comps - different tables (manys the other table where that red would be going in 95%+ of the time)... were ya not listening to the commentary? "The...Pockets....Are....Very-Un-For-Giv-Ing ! " 😋



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