New Kia Sportage

john_doe.

I was wondering will the new Kia Sportage be offered in PHEV in Ireland , there is nothing on the website apart from a picture.

colm_mcm

I would expect their range to mirror that of the Hyundai Tucson?

john_doe.

Maybe it's just not our here yet

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118387400#Comment_118387400

Nope the new Sportage is avalible from Janurary and I am quite sure there will be a PHEV version of it too.

Meet the all-new Kia Sportage range. 

 

It’s low on emissions, and big on choice. With three different powertrains, including Hybrid, Mild Hybrid and Diesel. Which one will you choose?

https://www.kia.com/ie/new-cars/all-new-sportage/discover/

goochy

Seems pricey compared to tucson . You can get a fully loaded diesel Ticon for about €40k

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118397554#Comment_118397554

Ye there certainly not cheap anymore. Kia moving up in class and must have a lot of confidence in this new Sportage too.

john_doe.

I noticed too the prices, thought would be cheaper ,seems higher than Tuscon and not sure would I opt for it then when it's getting on par with say a RAV4 price.

The PHEV exists in Europe, but its definitely not on Kia Ireland Website so it probably is coming later in year I guess.

Not gone on fact the dedicated European model is shorter also and looks a bit squashed really. Think this is first time kia have directly built model for European roads or something like that.

Interior looks nice , nicer than Tuscon i think , I was looking at PHEVs and in terms of price seems to go like this,

Ford Kuga - Tuscon - RAV4

the Kuga offering the cheapest way to get a PHEV SUV for family - decent boot etc.

Would like to know where the price of this Kia PHEV ranks in below - on par or more than Tuscon.

colm_mcm

Interesting that the mild hybrid manuals have a clutch-by-wire system and an ‘intelligent manual transmission’

https://press.kia.com/eu/en/home/media-resouces/press-releases/2020/Kias_new_intelligent_Manual_Transmission.html

goochy

Love to know why it is hyundai sells so.much more vehicles here than kia ? Assume it's the huge success of tucson why hyundai selling thousands more vehicles ?

colm_mcm

I think a lot of Kia dealers share showroom space with other brands?

Garda contract will boost Hyundai figures too.

Why does Skoda massively outsell Seat when they’re basically the same thing?

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399188#Comment_118399188

Can't see that working out well as they age.

bazz26

Hyundai go after market share to compete with the likes of Toyota, VW and Ford by dumping large volumes of models onto the market, government contracts, hire cars, etc. Kia don't to the same extent as it would mean taking sales from their sister company. Maximum market share is what Hyundai want here.

goochy

I can never understand that , surely making decent money on each car is more important ?

AMKC

7mins 10 seconds in the Audi fans are not going to be happy. As posh as an Audi and posher than a VW Tiguan and it has style too. Imagine paying all that extra money for a dull, ugly, less well equipped Audi when the KIA is just as good or even better than the equivalent Audi and certainly now better than the Tiguan and all other VW SUVs of that size or smaller. Well done KIA. Delighted for KIA.

Toyotafanboi

Honestly, i think it's a desperate looking yoke. Hyundai got away with the controvertial new Tucson but that Sportage is ugly. You won't see many getting out of a VAG product into them.

The clutch by wire thing above is especially funny as Hyundai/ Kia cant even make a good manual clutch to the present day. At least from Kias point of view i suppose clutch by wire will mask any early warning symptoms until the clutch **** the bed and leaves you stuck somewhere.

colm_mcm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118441070#Comment_118441070

i haven’t seen the new Sportage, but your enthusiasm for it tells me it’s doomed 😂

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118441224#Comment_118441224

Don't mind the look of this but I'd agree with ya about the clutch.

Looks like layers of complication for the purposes of a tiny efficiency gain.

Reminds me abit of vag water pumps with the clutched shroud that were giving lots of bother at small mileages and presumably only used to give a slight efficiency gain.

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399188#Comment_118399188

What's even the point of mild hybrid, is it just a fancy word for petrol?

bazz26

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118441070#Comment_118441070

Your wasting your talent on boards. You should be working for the Kia Marketing department. 😁

Toyotafanboi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118441484#Comment_118441484

I suppose it's not an entirely new level of automation or anything in that it's probably very similar to VAG's ASG gearboxes, Hondas i-shift etc where it's effectively a manual box with an automated clutch control. The only difference with the Kia is that the meat in the seat is chosing when to change. I just wouldn't have faith in Kia to develop a completely manual clutch, nevermind that setup.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118441545#Comment_118441545

Thank you. I will certainly consider it lol 😆

goochy

Infairness Audi and vw are most overrated cars around . If they made **** cars they would still sell.

colm_mcm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118441496#Comment_118441496

They increase efficiency. It’s a real thing

mickdw

I don't know. Depends what you like I suppose. Ford, toyota, kia etc all seem very bland internally. Not even close to Audi in fit and finish.

I drove the current Hyundai Tucson and thought it very much Toyota styled internally. Not premium at all.

goochy

I don't know older audi and vw felt built like a bank vault but not new ones .

Friend has a new top of the range passat , doesn't feel the slightly but classy inside to me - very plastic looking dash.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118441842#Comment_118441842

Agreed they are so overrated.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118441946#Comment_118441946

I agree the current Sportage the MK 4 not the one just coming out is very bland inside compared to its predecessor and the new one.

Kia interiors are of very good build do and high quality with lots of soft touch about.

Ford really have lost there way internally from there heyday of the 2009 Fiesta, the MK ii C-Max, the S-Max, the 2007 Mondeo and the Kuga based on the C-Max. They all had very stylish dashs and interiors yes the build and quality certainly could have been better but they were funky to look at now all the insides of Fords are so dull and dreary I am glad my Dad does not drive one anymore.

The current Toyota Corolla do is nice inside.

You are of the exception so in the new Tucson. Must people think it is very classy internally.

goochy

You forgot the mk1 focus . Was like a leather dash

omanomad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118398533#Comment_118398533

Why would anyone pay more for an rav4 over a sportage? The rav4 looks like a car from the 90s inside, I’d class it as below paddy spec.

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118442028#Comment_118442028

The new Tucson..... Classy compared to what though? Ya, there is a fair bit of tech and a reasonable amount of soft touch materials and screens but it's just something to do with the styling, its just not a quality feel how it's designed. Just feels cheap compared to the Germans.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118443492#Comment_118443492

Lol what Germans are these the ones who made the latest Golf worse than the last one and there electric cars fitted with a dash made from the quality of plastic from a child's toy.