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Mica Redress Campaigners want to form a political party

  • 26-12-2021 11:12pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭ John Doe1


    https://www.thejournal.ie/mica-potential-political-party-donegal-5640648-Dec2021/

    “It’s time now that the people of Donegal started looking after Donegal. The way the Healy-Raes look after Kerry is what we want"-Paddy Diver

    As a Donegal person, I am conflicted over this and can imagine a lot of people in the more salubrious parts of the county will view this with disdain.

    Donegal is the poorest county in the state, €15,705 being the average salary with no decent infrastructure to speak of and the Celtic Tiger basically passed it by. This in spite of Donegal being relatively prosperous (compared to the south) before partition and having a vast train network back then also.

    A modern example of the county being considered "forgotten" is that despite being the 8th largest county in terms of population can somehow get 1/8th the number of IDA visits as Sligo. (with 3 times the population of the county and with Letterkenny having a larger population than Sligo town)

    Personally, I think donegal people should be putting pressure on their current TD's within the major parties rather than voting for a single issue party who might get one seat at most.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭ enricoh


    I thought sinn Fein had it fairly sown up in Donegal? They'll just promise everyone a free apartment in Dublin along with a replacement mica house in Donegal if need be!

    Agree about the ida but the border n road network probably puts multinationals off. It's a pity fishing was thrown under the bus by our politicians in Europe. I don't see a mica party getting the traction needed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,690 ✭✭✭✭ NIMAN


    Have to laugh, you'd think Donegal was the only county with one off housing.

    I have been a lot of this country of ours, and I see 1 off housing everywhere. Of course maybe not in central Dublin, or Cork or Galway. But outside of them, it's everywhere.

    Difference is, most other counties have decent levels of high quality road and rail links.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,653 ✭✭✭✭ Galwayguy35


    Every TD in the Dail gives priority to their own area because they want to get re elected, the only difference is the Healy Rae's are more open about it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭ silver2020


    Seems it's the poorest part of the country, yet for some unknown reason it has the highest building costs - if you believe the sinn fein rhetoric



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭ Blaaz_


    Hard to blame em really.....this distain of parish pump politics pushed by the media particularly since the recession has resulted in large areas of the country being left behind



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭✭ Brendan Bendar


    Distain for parish pump politics…. Wonder how that could happen.

    Allegedly a number of ‘parish pump politicians’ in the south of the country have questions s to

    answer regarding govt aid regarding payments to businesses..

    I have yet to see any so called ‘parish pump politicians’ struggling for a Bob or two.

    I tend to avoid them like the plague, so I do.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭ Blaaz_


    If you have noone to fight your counties corner in the dail,the government will simply ignore yous and let your area go to ruin



    Hence why all my life...ive seen waterford been run down and neglected and essential services slashed as we have noone to talk up for us....we still dont have 24 hour cardiac care....if you get a heart attack at 10 past 5 on a friday,you either die or make your way to cork....the m9 was to not be a motorway,only for insistance of martin cullen...repeated governments have been wanting to close down the rail links to/from the city...


    the healy-rae may be utter gowls,but theres no question but kerry deos significacntly better than similar sized counties



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This reliance on the government has to stop. Locals need to be more proactive.. local investment companies etc. Council can set local rates and grant exemptions to encourage investment. The Kerry model of raiding the general tax take for certain areas needs to stop



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭✭ Brendan Bendar


    Well then your option is vote out those people who are TDs.

    This business of running little ‘feudal’ areas based on national taxes is for the birds.

    If the Govt are that bad why are TDs like O’Caoimh O’Dea, etc still around in power.


    Electing people to national stage whose only interest is their own area is a recipe for disaster and usually ends badly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,601 ✭✭✭✭ For Forks Sake


    I thought Diver would have been a cert the 3rd SF candidate in Donegal the next GE, he must've pi55ed someone off if he's mouthing off aboutstarting a seperate org.

    Post edited by For Forks Sake on


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭ Peterteanh


    An average salary of €15,705 looks extremely low? Although I haven't done any research into it. Is there a link for this? Thanks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭ Peterteanh


    Ok, thanks. That's disposable income not average salary which makes more sense. I'd expect Donegal to have less disposable income compared to Dublin due to jobs, isolation etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭✭ Brendan Bendar


    Could I ask what were these houses valued at for the Property tax.

    what were they valued at for for insurance purposes.

    What is the role of insurance companies in all this.

    Who is behind these runs to create a new party.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭ John Doe1


    Recent figures also revealed that the average household in Donegal takes in €32,259, which is €12,000 below the national average. Donegal also has the lowest income per person among the working population, where the average pay is €24,626 a year.

    https://www.donegaldaily.com/2019/11/16/revealed-donegal-people-earn-lowest-weekly-wage-in-ireland/#:~:text=Recent%20figures%20also%20revealed%20that,is%20%E2%82%AC24%2C626%20a%20year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭✭ Brendan Bendar


    I notice you don’t mention the cost of living differential in that lovely county.

    Lot of high end motors up there, they say.

    Serious slabs….uhmmm



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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,690 ✭✭✭✭ NIMAN


    I live in Donegal and I don't see much of a "cost of living differential" here.

    We don't have different oil prices, electric prices, insurance prices, grocery prices, clothes prices.

    The vast majority of the county can't avail of heavily subsidised public transport. We have no rail links, no LUAS, poor buses. As for "high end" vehicles, maybe they are all on PCP?

    Where exactly are we making all these great savings?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭ Furze99


    "Donegal is the poorest county in the state, €15,705 being the average salary"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I nearly died with laughter reading this - can you kindly explain then why even a cursory tour of Donegal roads reveals quickly that Donegal citizens are living in houses approaching twice the size of those elsewhere. You'd think people in Donegal were living in mud huts and if they were, wouldn't be all a lot better off without all this mica crap.

    I put it to you that citizens of Donegal may have an average taxable income of €15,705 but are expert at screwing the welfare state, working on the side, benefiting from cross border transactions and so on.

    Let them form a political party if they wish, myself I think they should vote to leave the Republic, join up with their mates in the Six Counties and screw the Westminster government instead to keep them in the lifestyles of that have come to prevail in NI.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,690 ✭✭✭✭ NIMAN


    ... and with that latest attack on all Donegal folk, I am out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭ elperello


    It's a risky strategy for the victims of Mica to follow because what they really need is to get their houses fixed and get on with their lives.

    They have put up with enough stress and to find the energy to go the full blown political route would be a big ask.

    On the other hand Tom Gildea did it 25 years ago but the issue was much different.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭ John Doe1


    Wow, I am guessing your GF ran off with a Donegal fella?:p



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭ Furze99


    You're a well informed poster here, do you honestly believe that "Donegal is the poorest county in the state, €15,705 being the average salary".

    Really??



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭ John Doe1


    Recent figures also revealed that the average household in Donegal takes in €32,259, which is €12,000 below the national average. Donegal also has the lowest income per person among the working population, where the average pay is €24,626 a year.

    https://www.donegaldaily.com/2019/11/16/revealed-donegal-people-earn-lowest-weekly-wage-in-ireland/#:~:text=Recent%20figures%20also%20revealed%20that,is%20%E2%82%AC24%2C626%20a%20year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭ Pussyhands


    How do you not see different costs when you are a border county and thus get maximum benefit of cheaper prices in the north?

    I know of places in the north selling bags of coal for 11 euro! When lads down here have to go up the north for them they then charge 16 euro a bag or more.

    I know people in louth and monaghan and they all take regular trips up north to stock up on things where they save big. Paracetamol for example is something like 50c when you're paying several euros for the same thing down here.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭ padd b1975


    Ah "multi channel Tom", now there's a blast from the past.

    The gombeen's gombeen.



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