Girl Band to Gilla Band

In fairness, yer man that started the thread is probably in the band..

I really am perplexed that any time some **** "progressive" apology or press statement is met with derision, the same faces pop up to claim that we are "outraged".

We aren't outraged. We just recognise it and comment on it. There has been little to no comments even bordering on "outrage". Most have been eye rolls and head shakes.

Or does outrage just mean thinking something is stupid.

And Robert, even you can't claim that this PR exercise wasn't a pander to "the liberals" in order to get some free publicity? Or do you genuinely believe they are very sorry for "misgendering" their band?

Lol. Please tell me you don't believe that.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181206#Comment_118181206

Love music, but not a note in my head. I could maybe be like their Bez if they're looking for one? Get drunk/stoned and dance like a loon.

I don’t care either way except it’s a relatively clever marketing move. I strongly suspect the number of serious complaints this unknown band has had about their previously unknown name is zero, the number of articles written about their old name was zero, and certainly the number of boards threads about their old name - also zero.

And here we are discussing them. Clever.

The Raging Bile Duct

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181146#Comment_118181146

Anyone with a decent knowledge of indie music would know who Girl Band were and that they were all blokes. If they didn't know that, or they are clueless enough to put them on a bill without the tiniest bit of research, then I'd suggest that they shouldn't be putting together a line-up for a musical festival.

My two cents - I've seen them live twice and they make are amazing - their albums just don't capture the exhilarating cacophony they make onstage. I thought it was a bit stupid when I heard the name change yesterday - I grew up listening to music in an era of bands with provocative names (Butthole Surfers, Suicidal Tendencies...) but I've mellowed on it. Doesn't really matter what they're called when they're that good.

Thinkingaboutit

I never knew Girl Band existed until they no longer did.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181276#Comment_118181276

oooooh.

That's deep.

CarProblem

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118180067#Comment_118180067

"it had potential to be confusing for anybody that cared to look at a lineup to see whether there was a significant proportion of female artists"

Now maybe it's my fault for not having fuckwits for friends but I know a grand total of zero people (male or female) who have ever looked at a lineup to see whether there was a significant proportion of female (or indeed male) artists. They'd typically look to see if there were bands/artists that they'd be interested in seeing

WrenBoy

I've been a fan of Girl/Gilla band for a good while now, even met them a few times in the whole Dublin music scene, seemed nice enough. Don't really care about the name change. Hopefully all the girls out there can get some sleep now that justice has been served.

sydthebeat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118179412#Comment_118179412

under representation??? LOL

do you live under a rock??

https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/akgy4a/best-albums-summer-2021

heres a small sample list of where female based music outnumbers male by 8 to 5

anyone familiar with current music scenes knows it very much 50 / 50 these days with new music been gender equal.

heres another list where the representation is 14 female lead, 7 male lead and 3 equal

https://daily.bandcamp.com/best-of-2021/the-best-albums-of-summer-2021

all this is is a band looking for publicity...... the worst thing they were guilty of was false advertising.

this is like 'rollerskate skinny' changing their name for being afraid of upsetting anorexics

donaghs

Its the most publicity this band ever got, plus they announced some upcoming gigs, so you'd have to wonder what really inspired this. Especially as the explanation they gave was kind of paltry.

But it does add just a tad to the current atmosphere that minding your own business is not enough, "silence is violence" etc. That we should all engage in some Maoist "self-criticism", where we rack our brains to find any political or social transgressions we may committed, make a public confession, followed by a re-affirmation of our belief in the (current) party line. :)

vetinari

We sure they didn't do this just to drum up some publicity for their band?

This is the first I've ever heard of them. I doubt they were getting much actual pressure to change the band name.

Starfire20

The amount of triggered conservatives complaining about the world changing around them is amusing. Oh noes, how dare they use different words to call/describe things as to what I grew up with. If only "the woke mob" would leave me alone in my safe space.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181786#Comment_118181786

lol.

It's conservative to think that a band apologising for "misgendering" their band is ridiculous?

My oh my.

(and actually, the people who are offended that "they are using different words to describe things" are the people who had an issue with a male band being called girl band, so that part of your argument doesnt hold up in this instance)

Starfire20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181859#Comment_118181859

Its manufactured outrage designed to trigger conservative/right wing types into giving them more exposure as culture war issues is all the right have.

i'm also amused by you saying you'd be turned off listening to them due to them changing their name.

Nice bit of virtue signalling there lol

Rothko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118179567#Comment_118179567

The band are far from unheard of.

I'll never understand people who automatically assume that just because they themselves have never heard of someone, that it means that no one else could possibly have heard of them either.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181885#Comment_118181885

Not virtue signalling at all. I'm just being honest.

I'd be turned off listening to a band I hadn't listened to if I thought they were the type of people who would apologise for misgendering their band. That isn't virtue signalling, that's just me not listening to a band that I think are twats.

Coldplay have some great songs but I can't listen to them because I find Chris Martin insufferable. It's my bias towards him that ruins my enjoyment. It's not a "protest" or me trying to "cancel" any one or any thing. I just personally wouldn't be interested.

donaghs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118181786#Comment_118181786

I haven't seen any outrage here. But I don't want to go back and re-read all the posts. Seems mainly people suspecting a publicity stunt using current trends about gender politics.

"We are changing our band name. We will no longer be performing or releasing records under the name Girl Band. We apologise for choosing a misgendered name in the first place and to anyone who has been hurt or affected by it."

"When we were starting off it was chosen without much thought, from a place of naivety and ignorance. We had no grasp of the weight of it at the time and in the past few years have found it impossible to justify or explain this choice.

"Regardless of our intention the effect of the name has been damaging to individuals. To try and negate any unfortunate role we’ve played in propagating a culture of non-inclusivity in music or otherwise, we have decided to change it.

"Thank you to those who spoke up about it and educated us on this, either directly or indirectly. Moving forward we will be performing and releasing records under the name Gilla Band. Gilla being a given name taken from Old Irish"."

Their statement didn't ring true for a lot of people. "girl band" is clearly ironic. its unclear how they are hurting, and damaging people. It just seems very cynical. But I don't think anyone will lose sleep over it.

Starfire20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182012#Comment_118182012

you're letting everyone here know that you wouldn't listen to a band due to them doing something socially/politically unpalatable to you.

Starfire20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182024#Comment_118182024

i don`t know but the OP seems to be in a right flap about it

Rothko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118179536#Comment_118179536

Stupid comment that would only be made when you're unable to argue their point.

What about Marilyn Manson?

Should St. Vincent change her name?

Starfire20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182181#Comment_118182181

nobody is being forced. These individuals are deciding for themselves. Why do you not want them to have the freedom to do so ?

buried

Ahh man that statement is hilarious, these lads must think they are a household name of some sort - "We are changing our band name. We will no longer be performing or releasing records under the name Girl Band. We apologise for choosing a misgendered name in the first place and to anyone who has been hurt or affected by it." lol Don't worry about it lads, not only was nobody hurt or affected by it, nobody knew who ye were anyways

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182051#Comment_118182051

I'm letting you know that I enjoy bands less when I find them to be insufferable twats and I wouldn't be encouraged to listen to Girl Band after this stunt. It would actively put me off seeking out their music and listening to it.

I don't see how that is controversial.

I'm not encouraging others to boycott them, I'm just saying that a stunt like this negatively impacts what I think of them.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182210#Comment_118182210

Nobody is saying they shouldn't have the freedom to do so? Why do you think that?

Rothko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182256#Comment_118182256

Just because you haven't heard of them doesn't make them unknown.

Rothko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182210#Comment_118182210

They can change or keep their name if they want. It won't make a difference in regards to whether I listen to them or not.

buried

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182287#Comment_118182287

Yeah but come on that statement is written as if they were akin to something like Radiohead or Nine Inch Nails. Nobody gives a $hit, not even the vast majority of people they somehow believed to have traumatised

Starfire20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182278#Comment_118182278

in other words, you're virtue signalling

Starfire20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182299#Comment_118182299

im sure they're devastated :)

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182315#Comment_118182315

No. I'm not pretending to be virtuous or taking a position I don't believe in order to seem virtuous.

I'm saying that I personally think this was a poor move from the band and that they were in fact the ones virtue signalling. I don't believe that they changed the name of the band because their fans were upset by them "misgendering" their band.

I'm in no way outraged or upset. I'm just giving my opinion on what I believe to be a bad PR stunt.

Starfire20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182399#Comment_118182399

Yes, you're letting everyone here know your position on their name change. It`s virtue signalling.

Not saying you shouldn't but lets just call it what it is.

Rothko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182323#Comment_118182323

What are you on about?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182414#Comment_118182414

Oh ok. Is it now virtue signalling to give an honest opinion on a topic on a discussion board?

I'm either way out of touch with how language is evolving and virtue signalling now means discussing how you aren't a fan of virtue signalling (which could be true) or you are talking out of your backside.

Danzy

Peak rich kid rubbish.

What a narcissistic story.

Or making headlines as a corporate rebrand because they picked a dumb name at the start.

buried

Them lads should have changed their name to 'The Sirtue Vignalling'.

Who did they think they were offending? (And were there actual complaints about them?)

Ten of Swords

Mod - OK a few posters are resorting to personal digs, a number of posts have been deleted. Please discuss the topic civilly

Annasopra

This is just hilarious. I mean all the people on here always complaining so called "woke" outrage are outraged over such a trivial matter.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182414#Comment_118182414

I’m not sure you know what virtue signalling is.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182807#Comment_118182807

I've asked this a few times. Can you point out examples of any outrage? Or is simply saying how ridiculous and dishonest the PR stunt was, an example of pure unbridled rage in your opinion?

RobbieTheRobber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182963#Comment_118182963

Post 2

you really have zero integrity left when you do something like this just to appease a negligible minority.

Post 4

Seriously though, can we have one space --a safe space even-- that is free from political ideologues?

Post 9

Give a bullshit excuse for the name change and expect backlash. If they'd changed it and said nothing, no one would have batted an eyelid. It's the wokeness that annoys people. Appeasing a miniscule minority

Two examples of outrage and one example of a poster calling for a "safe space" in the first 10 posts if you want to go looking the.

buried

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182807#Comment_118182807

The hilarity comes not from the thread. It comes from this bands ludicrous actions. Changing your little bands name to suit some sort of perceived narrative based on widespread outrage that doesn't even exist. That is what is hilarious here

Effects

Triple level of woke shít in this thread.

1. Band needlessly changing their name for "woke" reasons.
2. So called "woke" snowflakes" calling them out on it.
3. People then calling out the "woke snowflakes", which in turn makes them "woke snowflakes" too.

Curse These Metal Hands

Is gender not a social construct this week?

RobbieTheRobber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118183105#Comment_118183105

4. You calling out all the snowflakes for being snowflakes

5. Me calling you out in this post.

trashcan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118179770#Comment_118179770

In fairness their statement should have included a link to an appropriate support group !

For Forks Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182181#Comment_118182181

To the best of my knowledge Joan As Police Woman (ridiculous artist name I know) has never served in the security forces...name change post haste

Shield

Finally! I can go after Dr. Dre.

Wish me luck.

HBC08

This thread is hilarious!

I've heard of this band,I think I may have seen them a few years ago,obviously nothing too memorable.

I think the name was a joke in the first place, now it's worn off ,no big deal.Lets be honest,not one person in the world,not even some of the crackpots on boards were outraged at their "misgendered" band name.Its a cynical move on their part and has backfired spectacularly ( unless they're taking the p1ss in which case fair play to them)

I can't name one of their songs but might recognise one or two if I heard them,however this nonsense,not any song they come up with will define them.

Ps,Gilla has always been slang for muff in Australia, heard many Aussies use this down the years, maybe these boys are having a good laugh at this ( I really hope this is the case)