Wokeness in Ireland--1966 style

EmmetSpiceland · 25-11-2021 03:30PM

LOL!!

Snickers Man · 25-11-2021 04:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118221365#Comment_118221365

Very pithily put and I think you're right. But the weakness of the "woke ayatollahs" if indeed they have any power at all, is the same as it was for the Church in the days of the "Bishop and nightie" affair. Their power is utterly dependent on the loyalty of their "flock". Once that loyalty goes away, as it tends to do in the manner of someone going bankrupt (slowly, slowly, then all at once) it stays gone.

The church and its pompous, arrogant, presumptuous self righteousness has disappeared up its own backside because people just don't take it seriously any more. The bishops said No to divorce, marriage equality and abortion; the electorate said "Who cares what you think?"

Much the same will happen with the new orthodoxy. People will just get fed up of being told whom they must like and dislike because of their attitudes on some issue or other that is of little relevance to people here.

Tell me how · 26-11-2021 03:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118221439#Comment_118221439

You are right, there is a group seeking to impose values as a self appointed elite council. From time to time a person or group will advocate for a particular cause, and some of their friends and family will support them (and people will lose their sh*t over it), a week or month later, a different person will advocate for a different cause and maybe people who hear them talk about it, will support them (and people will lose their sh*t over it), the next month, yet another different group will advocate for something once again largely disconnected from that that came before, (and people will lose their sh*t over it).

The people/groups advocating for various things will generally be different albeit possibly loosely aligned in some fashion if you really look deep enough.

But the people losing their sh*t over each topic are likely going to be the same people in each instance. They will be very active on Twitter responding to the advocates with dismissive comments and possibly insults leading to threats in some cases. More of them will use their newspaper columns, talk shows, TV slots to talk about how 'you can't say anything against the topic' while ignoring the fact that they can and do say pretty much anything they want against the topic. And usually with a larger platform than the advocates have. They'll even have TV channels dedicated to the fact that they are against such topics. They'll revel in their resistance to any sort of consideration that the world in which they've spent their lives might change. More of this crowd losing their **** will start practically daily threads on discussion boards complaining about the most recent advocacy and saying the world is fcuked, you couldn't make it up and talking about their bogeyman 'the woke! The Woke! THE WOKE! like it is something that haunts them every moment of the day. They will lament that things are changing and that society and the country is the worse off for it, and it's only going to get worse. They will have a dedicated thread which acts as a support group within which they'll lament a different wokeism of the day item and they'll comfort each other as they beat whatever dead horse topic that has annoyed them most recently to absolute death.

So, who exactly is behaving like they are in a self-appointed elite council trying to impose the values they agree with on everyone else?

Mad_maxx · 26-11-2021 09:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118224594#Comment_118224594

Quite the rant

The Raging Bile Duct · 26-11-2021 02:08PM

The only time 'wokeness' enters my life is when I see threads about it here on boards and it's usually a thread started by someone giving out about it. And it's usually a core group of the same people who are making the threads to give out about how wokeness is ruining our society. It genuinely makes no other impact on my day-to-day life. I reckon if that group of lads - omg, look at me assuming genders - took breaks from trawling through Twitter looking to be offended by someone being offended and read a book instead, they'd be much happier.

And to compare the influence the church wielded in this country in the middle of the last century to a bunch of blue-haired loolahs on Twitter is bizarre.

Tell me how · 26-11-2021 04:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118224974#Comment_118224974

Lol. It's anything but. The evidence is all over this very site. Right now, one of the most active threads on the front page is the same old characters getting upset because of a media ad in Norway suggesting a fictional character might be gay.

When presented with an opportunity to speak positively in advocating for their own gender, they couldn't even take that opportunity, as shown in the thread about international mens day in the 'The Gentlemans Club' Forum. That thread has a total of 26 posts in nearly 2 weeks with many of them being from the OP. Myself and one other poster put 2 positive messages about mens health and virtually every other post is one of the usual suspects using it as an opportunity to have a go at women.

FFS, it's not like there isn't a list of issues which mean could talk about, advocate for, and get or offer support in relation to it but we don't see that, we see pitiful whinging and complaining and pointing the fingers at others who have the bravery to stand up in the face of ridicule and ask that their cause be heard. Maybe it's an insecurity thing, they feel unable to advocate for themselves, and inferior for not doing so and instead of trying to face that insecurity head on, they try to demean others probably because it reminds them of their weakness every time they see others doing what they cannot, or have yet, not figured out how to get out of their own way and to adopt a strategy of positivity instead of negativity.

But you and others will dismiss all of the above because you think you can't fail when all you are doing is judging others instead of identifying a genuine issue relating to you and seeking to overcome it.