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Someone is using my assigned parking slot

  • 01-11-2021 10:25pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭ GlobalSun


    Hi all,

    My current lease stipulates a specific slot number in the parking lot is assigned to my apartment/tenancy. I live in the city, so I do not really need a car, but have been contemplating getting one at some point. This evening, I made my way to the parking lot and to my surprised, there was a car parked in my assigned slot. I haven't used the slot since I moved in 8 months ago since I don't have a car yet. It is my understanding all the slots in the complex are assigned to tenants as the management company does not want third parties to rent these slots.

    I signed my lease with a letting agent, but the parking spaces are managed by the management company managing the complex. About 70% of the parking slot is unused. There is plenty of space to assign if need be.

    Now, I have to admit that I am slightly annoyed because if I am to find out I'm paying for the parking slot through my rent and in addition to this, someone else is availing of it (probably at a cost too), it won't be good. I live on my own, so it clearly is not shared with anyone else.

    My questions are:

    • As the parking slot number is clearly stipulated in my lease, can the letting agent or management company rent it out to someone else without my consent?
    • Would this situation warrant an escalation to either have the rent dropped to deduct the parking slot fee given they seem to have re-assigned it without my knowledge or alternatively, escalate to get the slot back?

    Thanks.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭ GlobalSun



    Thank you. I'll drop by the parking lot again tomorrow and see. I'll drop a note if the car is still there.

    I simply assumed it's been rented out because there are so many available spaces that this person could have parked anywhere else. My space is surrounded by at least another 10/20 empty spaces and this person decided to pick mine specifically. It's a bit odd.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭ TheW1zard


    Buy a car for 100 euro and park it there!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭ GlobalSun


    Well, it will be hard to acquire a car if I don't know where to park it.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭ Raichu


    but you're happy to pay for you not to use it?


    interesting. I have a lot of things you may never use would you like to buy them just so no one else can have them?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,828 ✭✭✭✭ HeidiHeidi


    Start by asking the management company if they know who is parking in the space, and why.



  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭ GlobalSun


    Exactly.

    Regardless of whether I have been using the space, this motorist is parking there without any authorization. The day I get a car, I won't know where to park it because this person will have already self-appropriated this space. It's not reasonable for me to keep my mouth shut until I get a car. I'm paying for the space and someone else is availing of it without my knowledge. It doesn't make any sense.



  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭ GlobalSun


    Haha, I actually just contemplated this a few minutes ago. I might have to do this I think.



  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭ GlobalSun


    I'm happy to pay for it because it wasn't a negotiable aspect in the lease and 've always had it in the back of my mind that I would eventually get a car, so it was never a problem for me to pay. It's a perk.

    I think you're a very strange person if you think it's OK for you to absorb the cost of something, but for some stranger to use it. You must have a very charitable mindset, I don't.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭ Raichu


    not at all, but if you're paying you're paying and you only seem to care enough now that someone's parked a car there.

    you've been there 8 months why do you care NOW? that's what I can't understand. my assumption is you're just being a bit spiteful, but you're correct noo I wouldn't have much of a shite unless I needed it.


    like the entire thing you said contradicts itself. you're happy to pay but you said in your OP you wanted to negotiate a rent reduction minus the cost of the space..

    so are you happy to pay or are you not?



  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭ GlobalSun



    I am happy to negotiate a rent reduction if it turns out the landlord rented it out, but not if some random motorist decided to self-appropriate this space out of nowhere with no prior binding agreement with anyone. I'm not contradicting myself, it is pure logic. One scenario would have been triggered by the landlord / agent, thus providing enough supporting evidence to request a rent reduction. The other scenario is clearly unauthorized parking.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,002 ✭✭✭ leffesem


    Probably not that 'odd' that one of the other tenants picked your spot - perhaps they have a good view of it from their apt/ could be that their car is 'less on view' from the street etc... / might be one of the easiest spots to navigate/reverse in and out of in the car park.... You say you 'made your way down to the parking lot' this evening - was this the first time you went down in quite a while? Most likely there's an apt with more than 1 car user in it; and since yours has been empty for so long, they think it's 'fair go' to use yours...

    And for those who say; "When they see that your spot is being used, the 'cuckoo parker' will discontinue using it" A total crock imo,,,, Whether or not you ever buy a car, it's still your spot!!, and can be used by your friends/family etc, when calling over....

    It's on the lease... Your spot!

    What you don't know is; if the apartment owner has being paying their service charges/management fees.. If this is the case, then maybe (am guessing here) the owner (and, by extension, you) might have no claim to the spot... That's unlikely the case, and, if not, then you probably won't be able to find out... The agent is highly unlikely to state in the lease that the Landlord has 'lost their parking spot privileges' ..

    Go to/ring the agent and flat out ask them "Do I have sole rights to the parking spot, as it stipulates in the lease that I do?"

    Maybe the agency rent out a few apartments in the block... Do they (agent/mgmt company) have a caretaker for tending to the common areas of the apt block... Maybe he could have a word with the parking spot thief, without you having to conversate with them, or doing any of that 'putting notes on windows' rubbish...

    You want your parking spot, regardless whether or not you have (or ever will have) a car.... because, 'according to the lease' it's yours!..

    No point in going too gung-ho with notes on windows and the like, and potentially falling out with other tenants... It doesn't appear that it's an immediate concern; so if you can find out about the parking spot's ownership/entitlement for use, for sure, perhaps you can put it on someone else to sort the situation out... That's what the agent is for, I presume..

    "there aint no forgettin" - the outlaw Josey Wales



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,549 ✭✭✭ YFlyer


    OP best of luck. Where I'm living there is one space assigned to per house. A parking card is given. Clampers come around to check.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭ Charles Babbage


    Leave a note €50 a week or park elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,049 ✭✭✭✭ Del2005


    Just because your lease has a spot doesn't mean that the landlord had the authority to assign it to you, parking in MUDs can be complex. You have to contact your landlord and tell them that someone is using the space assigned to their apartment, they will then chase up with the OMC and tell you what the story is.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭ C14N


    A few thoughts OP

    1) I would make sure with the management company that this is actually your spot. In the last apartment I stayed in, spots weren't assigned based on their number. They had to be rented out in addition to the apartment from the letting agency, and you were told which number you were assigned, which most likely was different to the apartment number. Double check that this one is actually yours before doing anything else.

    2) Assuming it is yours, yes this person is being a bit cheeky taking your spot without even asking, but in fairness it is no skin off your nose when you weren't using it. It's still bad form, but as others have pointed out, it doesn't actually affect you in any way compared to the spot just staying empty. I'm going to guess the person who took it lives in a 2-car apartment, noticed it was never used and thought it would be no harm to park there. They could just as easily have done the same with the other vacant spots. That said, if you are going to be getting your own car then yeah, you don't want the person getting too used to using it.

    3) A note on the windshield either saying to please not use the spot, or maybe to offer to rent it out to them for the time being should probably be enough to take care of it without getting any third parties involved. Where I am now, I rent out a parking space from a neighbour, and have done so in other places before. They might just chance their arm and take one of the other empty spots hoping not to get caught again (presumably when they took your spot they figured it would be cheaper to ask forgiveness than permission), but you never know, it could be money for nothing for at least a few months.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭ .red.


    Is it a car you've seen there once, or repeatedly, from reading your post it seems like you've seen it there once as you don't go down there.

    Could be a case of somebody visiting and being told to park in your space cos it's always empty.

    Could also be somebody who's space is at the opposite end of the parking lot to the exit so parked in yours as its always empty and nearer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭ GlobalSun


    To answer a few questions:

    • According to my lease, this is my spot. The lease clearly stipulates the spot number. So, based on the legally binding contract I signed, it is my spot unless proven otherwise. Whether it has been re-assigned by the management company in the background is a different story and needs to be confirmed. I'm not supposed to know the inner adjustments, I'm relying on the legally binding contract I signed.
    • This is an underground parking lot, so you can't see any of the vacant spaces from any window. This individual has probably noticed the spot has been vacant for some time, indeed. It is a good spot given it is right next to the exit gate. I agree that it could be a household with two cars and one of them decided to use my spot as there is only one assigned parking space per household / apartment.
    • Before raising it to the management company, I will drop by the parking lot once again at lunch break and this evening to ascertain this person has been using the spot. It could be a visitor, but I want to make sure this is not an isolated incident. I drop by the parking lot about once or twice or week to take the bins out and can see my parking spot from there, so I know for fact this only started this week.

    If the car is still there today, I will check with the security guy to see if the spot has been assigned to someone else (because they manage the fobs etc) and ask for further clarification. I very much doubt the owner / landlord has ceased to pay their management or service fees to be honest.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭ bazwraf


    OP, here is what I would do.


    Keep an eye on your parking spot regularly. If you see the same car park there more than once, I would leave a note on the windscreen, advising them that this is your paid spot, and that they are not entitled to park there. I'd probably setup a temporary email address also, and provide this. Something that doesn't provide any personal info, e.g. assignedparkingslot123 @ hotmail . com

    If they park there again, I would leave one further note

    After that, I'd start letting air out of the tires


    Whether you use it or not, is irrelevant. If I have a shed in my garden that I dont use, it's not available for someone else to start using.


    The other option, as others have mentioned, is to offer to rent it to the specific car for a cost per week



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭ C14N


    There's no need to start resorting to vandalism. If they're refusing to comply, the management company is in charge of policing it, and they will most likely have a clamping company that they can call in. Interfering with their car yourself is opening yourself up to more trouble than it's worth.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,709 CMod ✭✭✭✭ spurious


    Note explaining it is your spot and if they would like to continue using it, pay you x amount per month until such time as you need it yourself.

    If no response inform management company.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭ GlobalSun


    I agree. Currently, the motorist who is parking there illegally / unauthorized is in the wrong if it is proven that the parking spot has not been re-assigned. Let's not turn the tables. I don't believe in vandalism nor do I want the issue to escalate to the point where I'll be in the wrong.



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