Stopped by Gardai for 4D number plates

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118043730#Comment_118043730

Sure they did a documentary on him and his experiences being locked up. You man's name was Fran if I recall correctly and the documentary was Love/Hate

colm_mcm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118044875#Comment_118044875

They conveniently left this bit out which they clearly don’t comply with:

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118047981#Comment_118047981

Yes that appears to be the part of the regs they may have a problem with.

I have never actually examined one of these plates closely and to save me getting down on my knees in a car park perhaps the op or someone else could help us out with a description of how they are constructed.

colm_mcm

They’re stuck on the front. There are cases where the numbers fall off. Of course the sellers of these plates will say that only their rivals plates do that.

normal Perspex plates are clear with adhesive on the back where a reflective foil with the numbers printed on is stuck.

Bazzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118045557#Comment_118045557

An FCPN can be issued manually via a ticket / computer or on a mobility device at the road side, my understanding is its a 7 day warning to get it fixed or a trip to court neither of which would require a fixed charge penalty notice. Some buddy

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118048629#Comment_118048629

Thanks you very possibly saved me from getting a size 10 up the rear end if I started going around bending down poking at number plates in a car park 🙂

I am familiar with normal plates but never saw these 4d ones up close.

If the numbers are "readily detached" that seems to be the basis for AGS intervention.

In other respects they seem to be in line with the regs.

colm_mcm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118048812#Comment_118048812

Yeah, the big problem with them that the legislation doesn’t cover is that they are difficult to read from an angle.

they do make scallywags easier to identify though, so at least they have a purpose.

Basically German style plates went too mainstream, this is the latest cry for help.

Whocare

If was road policing unit I be expecting summons(pure Black and white with them) normal garda i bet you be ok

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049347#Comment_118049347

Perhaps time to revisit the regs and tidy up the loose ends if they really want to be so prescriptive.

These things are generally better sorted out on paper rather than left to the lottery of who you meet on the side of the road.

I can see how some people like to customise their plates but equally you can't have a free for all.

Maybe if they allowed trading in custom reg numbers it would provide an outlet for individualism and provide a bit of income to the state.

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118049347#Comment_118049347

You forgot the part in between where they're installing an led light bar above the plate to try and blind the camera not realising that infrared night vision could still read the plate even if the car was coming at them from direct sunlight.

vandriver

I was beside a modded Audi with one of these plates today.

From an acute angle ,you can't read the plate.

Casati

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118047981#Comment_118047981

if your 3D plate started life as a standard plate - i.e. printed from the back in the normal fashion, and then subsequently had the raised numbers fixed to the front over the flat front, I wonder could you argue that it does indeed meet the tech regulations?

mgbgt1978

The word "exhibited" in the legislation has that as a non-starter.

zell12

Is it not up to Customs/Revenue to enforce these reg plates?

The Revenue Commissioners can fine you up to €5,000 for registration plates that do not comply with the law.

L1011

I never noticed these before this thread; I've now seen three - and yes, they are very clearly being used because they are nearly impossible to read.

But they are so obvious its basically asking to be pulled over.

MrMusician18

Tbh there is no difference between having no plate at all and one that's impossible to read.

Montage of Feck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118044875#Comment_118044875

"After all, there are 2,174,779 cars in Ireland, and 99% of them all look the same."

selectamatic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118051009#Comment_118051009

LED light bars are being fitted in keeping with the whole tractor/4x4 theme that's in vogue in the agrispec scene at the moment. No one has them to blind a speed van.

Mefistofelino

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118074272#Comment_118074272

I think what flazio is referring to is the practice of installing extra bright LEDs in place of the normal rear number plate lamps. These are so bright that they make the plate almost unreadable by people, if not speed cameras. Always the same sort of sh!tweasel cars doing this.

whisky_galore

They do look like something you'd find on a kiddie's activity centre, so they can learn their letters and shapes.

flazio

Actually selectamatic is right. It's hard to find pictures of Irish vehicles with these but this is the general idea.

You don't just see them on 4x4s but on berlingo/caddy/ transit vans.

kirving

They don't blind the speed van, unless they're IR. But there's a far less obvious way of obscuring your plate in IR than using a light bar.