Sheridan Ford cork road

Dilbert75 · 15-12-2021 3:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118263525#Comment_118263525

Is there actually grounds for complaining about one company / group of companies having a dominant position in the region, or would there need to be evidence that competition was inhibited?

Dilbert75 · 15-12-2021 3:23pm

spankmemunkey · 15-12-2021 3:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325712#Comment_118325712

yeah I'm not on facebook i'll google it, there should be something for car buyers to write reviews on the dealings they have with car dealers

Wanderer78 · 15-12-2021 6:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325721#Comment_118325721

no clue to be honest, but there bloody should be a way of doing so, theres clear monopolisation happening here, and im sure theres very little standing in the way of preventing it also

jelutong · 15-12-2021 6:17pm

It would probably be easier to name the dealerships Bolands don’t have.

McConnells. Walshes Nissan for starters.

nomoedoe · 15-12-2021 6:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118325603#Comment_118325603

Google reviews would be your best bet

spankmemunkey · 15-12-2021 7:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118326761#Comment_118326761

I think there is an authority that regulates competition, its the competition regulator ha ha, my brain duh, It was like that time Homer Simpson was describing a movie he saw, "It was about a bus that had to stick to a certain SPEED and if it didn't stick to that SPEED then the bus would explode, I think it was called The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down" ha ha ha ha

Anyway yeah I'm sure the competition regulator would be the one to contact.

Moghead · 15-12-2021 7:55pm

Anyone hear any rumours of MG coming to Waterford? No dealership in the South East yet.

Wanderer78 · 15-12-2021 8:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118327216#Comment_118327216

probably outsourced to a call center called inditec or something!

Dilbert75 · 16-12-2021 3:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118327216#Comment_118327216

Not sure if you're being self-deprecating, facaetious or some other big word, but yes the CCPC are the people you're talking about. From what I've read, admittedly limited, they seem to help resolve specific complaints by consumers against businesses for service or product. Not sure how they address concerns around competition:

https://www.ccpc.ie/consumers/how-to-complain/report-a-business-to-the-CCPC/

goochy · 16-12-2021 5:37pm

Would say Farrells would be good dealer to sell MG or Simon kavanaghs

Tom Murphys must be worst dealer for MB in country , you would swear Bolands were running them . Feck all secondhand Mercs. and boring stock of new models .

While their MB showrooms are decent enough , no proper size forecourt either . When you see how impressive Bolands in Wexfords MB premises are.

Dilbert75 · 17-12-2021 12:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118259529#Comment_118259529

Doesn't look like it: 2 directors who've been directors of 0 other companies.

https://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Company/George-Corbett-Motors-Limited-225601#report-2

Dilbert75 · 17-12-2021 12:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118332057#Comment_118332057

Bolands MB in Wexford used to be the Citroen / Subaru garage.

goochy · 17-12-2021 1:37pm

yes Doyles , might have got at good price , Tom Murphys must have spent a fortune on premises but it shows how dual franchise dealerships dont really work . The Mercedes dealership just feels like a VW dealership with MB added on

spankmemunkey · 22-12-2021 12:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118331517#Comment_118331517

😂😂 I merely found it funny to myself that i mentioned, competition, regulation etc etc so often that it took me that long to remember the competition regulator and that reminded me of an episode of the Simpsons or a Homer Simpson moment where he couldn't remember they the name of the movie speed but mentioned the word speed over and over again.

RainInSummer · 22-12-2021 6:36pm

Bolands have a presence in Carlow too.

Not sure how much truth is behind this but I was told they own the franchise for Hertz in Ireland too.

Guaranteed supply of (ab)used rental cars every year to flip in their forecourts.

Dilbert75 · 22-12-2021 9:57pm

Yes, they own Hertz in Ireland too.

goochy · 23-12-2021 9:49am

No they no longer sell Hertz cars on their forecourts , hence not many used cars on their forecourts . For some reason they opened Hertz car sales ( i know it was to get rid of all hire cars not used last year ) to sell their ex hire cars at low prices when they could have just sold them at their many car dealerships .

So used car buyers in Wexford , Waterford and Carlow must travel to the big cities where Hertz sell cars rather than their local Boland garage .

logic ?

Oops! · 23-12-2021 10:40am

It's all optics, New showrooms for new cars. They are still trading in second hand cars, they are just not on the new car forecourt. Spotted 2 cars that were traded into a local VW dealers on a used car dealer website, when i looked a bit more i spotted a few other cars that were traded for new VW's..... It's just the way they are handling stock these days.... tradesales.ie is part of the Boland group as well as Hertz as already mentioned.

goochy · 23-12-2021 11:07am

i know all about the Boland group , the showrooms might be for new cars but forecourts have always been used cars .I live in Cork and aside from J & P , dealers are just as into used cars as new .

Kearys ( who also own Carstore in Dublin and Cork ) have plenty of used cars as well as new cars. Their BMW place is full of used cars even now and its not that they are stuck with them either. They buy in alot of stock to sell. Great motor group .

azimuth17 · 23-12-2021 1:24pm

So you have discovered that Dublin and Cork are more prosperous than Waterford and South East and that BMW sales and numbers are an indicator of that? Tell us something we didn't know and in the process stop being so glib about local car showrooms. Or are you running down things for the sake of it?

In any event car sales have been affected by shortage of chips for new cars. New cars have not been available meaning that cars are not being traded in, hence shortage of second hand cars.

goochy · 23-12-2021 1:35pm

Its not about running down Waterford , its about the fact that there are feck all used cars for sale in Waterford as the main dealers are almost all owned by one dealer group - they do the same in Carlow and Wexford - and the local dealer has no interest in selling used cars meaning local buyers have to travel far to buy cars that should be for sale locally.

Autoboland when they were in Newrath always had a good stock of Volvos and other makes for sale. As soon as the shiny new showrooms opened in Butlerstown that all changed. .

Wanderer78 · 23-12-2021 1:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118365710#Comment_118365710

markets have radically changed since then, we ve successfully financialised the whole car market now, and dealers have flocked to selling new cars, prioritising them over used....

goochy · 23-12-2021 1:53pm

only in places where Bolands are located . Anyway any work going on , on former Motor village premises for Boland Ford ?

Dilbert75 · 03-01-2022 10:45am

www.whichcar.ie appears to be another portal into buying cars from Boland garages across the South East.

goochy · 04-01-2022 2:26pm

Passed by Cork road last night , showroom and forecourt full of cars but dont seem to have signage up yet . Thought they would have made sure to be fully operational in time for Jaunary reg. Plate.no info on net about the opening either

Wanderer78 · 04-01-2022 2:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118415750#Comment_118415750

its not a normal January though.....

goochy · 04-01-2022 2:59pm

Surely it is for buying cars?

Wanderer78 · 04-01-2022 3:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118415973#Comment_118415973

hard to say, but it sounds like the second hand market is booming

goochy · 29-01-2022 6:24pm

see new Ford dealership is called WATERFORD CITY Ford , is it another Bolands garage or what ?

JohnC. · 29-01-2022 6:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118550757#Comment_118550757

They have James Boland listed as General Manager.

goochy · 29-01-2022 7:54pm

its a small enough showroom for Ford in its current form , theres a large rear display area. Wonder if they bought or leased it from the guys who own Dungarvan Nissan

Aquos76 · 30-01-2022 7:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117968099#Comment_117968099

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551146#Comment_118551146

Answered already

goochy · 31-01-2022 12:35pm

Oh right sorry forgot .

Was last on the Cork road in Waterford just after new years, looked like some kind of work going on - on 1st floor showrooms at Tom Murphys . Any changed to premises there this year ?

FGR · 02-02-2022 5:20pm

I've been fortunate enough to have bought a few brand new cars in my time but not once did a Bolands owned dealership offer to match or beat a competitor's offer for a car - so much so that I've bought new cars in Dublin, Kerry and Cork when I would have preferred to have bought them at my local Waterford dealership.

Is that the downside on the market when they own so many dealerships ? I hope there will always be reasonable competition.

Wanderer78 · 03-02-2022 10:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118571605#Comment_118571605

yea id say their monopoly is stifling competition, was only talking to a chap over the weekend, always bought his cars from sheridans, he got a far better offer in dublin, so thats where his business has gone to.....

goochy · 03-02-2022 11:22am

I am surprised Bolands have not lost BMW - but then theirs not a great land mass to cover for them and hard to think of another dealer opening in Waterford except Colm Quinn

Wanderer78 · 03-02-2022 11:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118574600#Comment_118574600

...ah theyre well in there, plenty of money going back and forth id imagine...

goochy · 29-03-2022 11:30am

was passing Waterford city Ford the other day , so stopped to have a look around . Has this place only just opened ? Felt more like a used car lot than a Ford main dealers - basic looking showrooms with only x2 cars in it and forecourt a mix of various makes of cars . Not much signs of New Fords and would not encourage someone to buy a new Ford.

Did Sheridans lose the Ford agency or did Kia put pressure on them to be a solus Kia dealer ?

Dilbert75 · 30-03-2022 7:45pm

Yeah, I was surprised they didn't knock what was a pretty modest showroom and build something flashier. But maybe they'll build another place on another site and just move location.

Not sure the background to Sheridans losing / foregoing Ford. Presumably with Bolands having Ford (among so many others) in Wexford, there's a relationship there already. But if EVs go the way they're looking, I'm not sure I wouldn't rather be selling Kia than Ford - they seem to have gotten left a long way behind. VW and Hyundai/Kia have to have the lion's share of that demand at this point I'd imagine (can't find data offhand).

Actually, here's the Feb 22 figures:

Surprised at how heavily Hyundai outsells Kia, given they share pretty much everything.

The data for 2021 is not vastly different:

https://www.cso.ie/en/interactivezone/visualisationtools/irelandstopmotors/

Wanderer78 · 31-03-2022 9:56am

its gonna be interesting to see what happens second hand markets once ice cars are gone, batteries seem to only last a few years, and tend to be extremely expensive to replace, will electric cars become hot potatoes!

JohnC. · 31-03-2022 10:00am

Batteries don’t only last a few years. That’s up there with saying you can’t drive them in the rain or you’ll get electrocuted.

Wanderer78 · 31-03-2022 10:16am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118859902#Comment_118859902

jesus, theres no point having them in ireland then! batteries tend to cost many thousands, this is a serious problem for second hand markets as many simply wont ever be able to purchase new, this could be a serious issue, the less ice cars become available, and the only option is electric. if prices of replacing batteries stays high, it will more than likely mean second hand electric cars will be moving quickly, due to these costs. we re kinna stuck with ice cars until we run out of them and their parts and/or fuel supplies etc, this is gonna be tricky.... modern society is heavily reliant on the car, theres still a serious reluctance in developing public transport availability, so this could become a serious problem for many, individuals and families have limited access to finances to make all of this work....